Help? one of my 8n"s set for a long time. When I cranked it oil came out of fill spout. So, I stipped the engine , had it vatted, and rebuilt it. Almost everything new. I crank it and ran it for 10 minutes and oil started coming out the fill spout. I also notices it has 50 lbs oil pressure just a little above idle. Any ideas or sujestions. Thanks
- Thread starter CRS1951
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I read problems like this on here, and it's not understandable how such can be taken place. If you added the correct number of quarts of oil, and the oil lines are clear, and all is put back together assembled as factory specs, there should be any oil spilling out the oil fill pipe. Something has to be installed wrong, and that requires a new disassembling the engine.
I little baffle or some wire mesh will not stop oil from spilling out where it shouldn't.
TheOldHokie
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- Myersville, MD
Shut it off - let it sit for a few minutes, and check the oil level using the dipstick. Is it showing the proper level??
TOH
Bruce (VA)
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" Something has to be installed wrong, and that requires a new disassembling the engine"
Why do you continue to waste our time w/ inane statements like this?
Your replies to most questions are either incomplete, misleading or just plain wrong. Yesterday, you have offered misleading advice about diagnosing engine knock in an N. You did a ‘cut & paste’ of an article about engine noise that did not apply whatsoever to an N. On Dec 22, you told us that the N grill can fall out because of a bad pivot pin causing the motor mount to move.
Unfortunately, these replies are just the most recent examples of your utter lack of knowledge of N tractors. We can go back in the archives & find even more examples of your ineptitude. Perhaps you should confine your participation on this forum to asking questions rather than misleading others & embarrassing yourself by trying to answer questions that are well beyond your knowledge & abilities.
Why do you continue to waste our time w/ inane statements like this?
Your replies to most questions are either incomplete, misleading or just plain wrong. Yesterday, you have offered misleading advice about diagnosing engine knock in an N. You did a ‘cut & paste’ of an article about engine noise that did not apply whatsoever to an N. On Dec 22, you told us that the N grill can fall out because of a bad pivot pin causing the motor mount to move.
Unfortunately, these replies are just the most recent examples of your utter lack of knowledge of N tractors. We can go back in the archives & find even more examples of your ineptitude. Perhaps you should confine your participation on this forum to asking questions rather than misleading others & embarrassing yourself by trying to answer questions that are well beyond your knowledge & abilities.
Mr. Bruce (Va) Just the facts man, just the facts that I print. Your 50 Tips that you show each time you make a post is just a bunch of tips that others over the years have made and you put into context to show others here you are "somewhat" a authority on "N' series tractors. Man!, how others here have laugh at your 50 tips listing. My knowledge on "N" tractors came from a Mr. Thomas Edel that own a Ford tractor dealership, and before that he worked as Engineer at the Dearborn Ford plant during the years 1940 to 1955, which you didn't , and if you had you would have been fired within hours for lack of ability to get along with other workers.
All this reminds me of some years ago I read about you in a Virginia town newspaper were you went into a local restaurant and set down and ordered a meal. When you finish eating you left the waitress a tip... a nice one of your type...three pennies. The waitress notice these three pennies and made this comment. "Sir, I see by the first penny you are a man of well being, and I see by this second penny you are not a married man, and I see y this third penny, your mother wasn't either"
God needs to make a recall.
The fill tube on the late model 8n's is a lot shorter than the earlier models, therefore it is easier to get some oil out the tube. If the baffle in the tube was opened up to much (maybe to make it easier to pour oil in)then it would be easier to get oil to blow out. Excessive oil out the tube is usually the result of worn rings, Maybe your rings on the new overhaul are not seated yet allowing some blow by. Just a thought. Also the filler cap on mine have forward and an arrow on them to aline the openings in the cap to be facing the fan, which would blow some air back into tube to help prevent oil being splashed out the short tube. Just my thoughts!
elmersooner
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Bruce some people are just that way. I have put your posts to good use. I might start a list of his posts as the 50 things not to do.
Bruce (VA)
Well-known Member
" just the facts that I print. "
OK, just the facts.
Tell us how the your post about engine noise had anything to do w/ an N engine? Did you sleep through the class on flatheads?
Then tell us about the motor mount moving because of a bad pivot pin which will cause the grill to fall out.
Go ahead. Explain it. Don't try to divert the conversation, just explain those two points.
Maybe the link below to some of your previous rants will help.
more bad advice
OK, just the facts.
Tell us how the your post about engine noise had anything to do w/ an N engine? Did you sleep through the class on flatheads?
Then tell us about the motor mount moving because of a bad pivot pin which will cause the grill to fall out.
Go ahead. Explain it. Don't try to divert the conversation, just explain those two points.
Maybe the link below to some of your previous rants will help.
more bad advice
Bruce (VA)
Well-known Member
" I might start a list of his posts as the 50 things not to do. "
LMAO!
I'm ahead of you on that one; I started the list w/ 5 of his better ones back in 2010.
W/ the latest we're at 8.
42 more to go!!
more bad advice
LMAO!
I'm ahead of you on that one; I started the list w/ 5 of his better ones back in 2010.
W/ the latest we're at 8.
42 more to go!!
more bad advice
TheOldHokie
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- Myersville, MD
Well Grasshopper how about sharing in more detail some of that knowledge you obtained from Mr Edel. The folks here are always hungry for learning especially as it relates to flathead Fords. Let's start with two of the thoughts you offered in your initial response.
1) By what means and at what locations in the engine would a blockage in an internal oil passage cause oil to flow out the filler tube on an N tractor? How much of a teardown is needed to determine if there is such a blockage?
2) What is the purpose of the baffle in the N tractor filler tube if it is not meant to help contain the oil mist picked up in blow by gases? If it has no purpose is it OK to remove it so I can pour fresh oil in more quickly?
TOH
Bruce (VA)
Well-known Member
I suspect the only response you will receive to your questions will be a grammatically challenged & ill tempered rant like I received as he attempts to divert attention from his clear & obvious lack of knowledge of automotive mechanics in general & N's in particular.
He will not offer a coherent reply to these questions any quicker than he replied to our comments regarding N engine noise coming from the valve train or his theory that the grill will fall out because the motor mount moves. And, from an archives search, we can all see that he would rather resort to personal attacks than tell us how his EI works w/o transistors or a rotor.....etc, etc.
He will not offer a coherent reply to these questions any quicker than he replied to our comments regarding N engine noise coming from the valve train or his theory that the grill will fall out because the motor mount moves. And, from an archives search, we can all see that he would rather resort to personal attacks than tell us how his EI works w/o transistors or a rotor.....etc, etc.
Anonymous-0
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I began reading this forum on a daily basis because I need solid advice on my new found hobby. If there is bad advice being handed out on a routine basis by one person, the administrators need to step in and resolve the issue.
Just my 2 cents worth gentlemen....
Just my 2 cents worth gentlemen....
Bruce (VA)
Well-known Member
Well, it's been over 24 hours since you asked the questions. I think he's ignoring us.
So sad.........such a loss.
So sad.........such a loss.
Bruce you don't mean to tell me that my grill didn't fall out cause of bad motor mounts and not me hitting that tree???????? :shock: :shock: :shock:
On the other side of being a smart a$$, yer 50 tips that you gave the go ahead to pass on to that teacher, are now part of an AG class being taught at a local community college, again many thanks for that!
Rick
On the other side of being a smart a$$, yer 50 tips that you gave the go ahead to pass on to that teacher, are now part of an AG class being taught at a local community college, again many thanks for that!
Rick
Britcheflee
Well-known Member
Darn! It was just getting exciting :twisted:
Bruce (VA)
Well-known Member
Stay tuned....I'm sure he will be back. Last time he was run off from here he stayed away about 10-12 months. But he found his way back.
Bruce (VA)
Well-known Member
Rick, I thought everyone knew about the flexible motor mount option on 8N's.......
You can order them from the same place you get those EI's w/o transistors!
You can order them from the same place you get those EI's w/o transistors!
Anonymous-0
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oil coming out oil fill tube 1952 8n ford tractor
jennifer408
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OK, I'll tell you what, when he comes back, I'll sneak behind him and squat down behind the back of his feet. then one of you push him, and when we get him on the ground, it's party time.
gears
Member
you know, his responses are incoherent enough that I suspected that "he" is a bot just stringing words together - but that "rant" against Bruce leads me to believe that if he is human, English is not his native language - not that there's anything wrong with speaking other languages........
Back to on topic, oil coming out the fill spout makes me think it's way overfilled (or they didn't put the expanders in the oil control rings).
Back to on topic, oil coming out the fill spout makes me think it's way overfilled (or they didn't put the expanders in the oil control rings).
Bruce (VA)
Well-known Member
Hmmmmm........
I replied to this thread, but my reply doesn't show up here. It's in a separate thread. So, I'll just copy & paste my previous reply:
Speaking first to the oil problem.......
Overfilling is the likely cause, either from too much oil or fuel in the crankcase.
Severe blow-back from bad/improperly installed rings is also a possibility.
The absence of a baffle is also a possibility.
Now to address the troll issue.......
I was correct: as I predicted, "8N1949" did show up here again, most recently on Dec 13, 2013, this time w/ a new handle of "Pecan Okie". (see the link below)
He stayed away over a year and a half after he was outed here on April 19, 2012 as a military "poser", i.e., he was claiming to be a Navy fighter pilot w/ the Navy Cross.
We had put up w/ his incompetence, BS & rants long enough. We know exactly who he is.
This is my post from April 19, 2012 that caused his disappearance:
Are you the same Fred J Barner of Coffeyville KS, aka “skeeter” & “skeeterman” that got busted by the POW Network website for falsely representing yourself as a retired US Navy captain & pilot w/ the Navy Cross?
http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=905566
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