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markman96

02-06-2014 14:43:44
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yes sorry i was called into work. now i have checked flow though carb and it has good flow through. and the gas does not appear to be dirty. so this means it is a spark issue most likley?




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02-06-2014 14:49:08
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 14:43:44  
Maybe spark but it can also be other problems. This time of year an engine does not like to start well unless every thing is just right. Yes check your spark and make sure it jumps a 1/4 inch gap or more. You also might try cleaning out the air cleaner and make sure it is not full of mud and ice. Also maybe pull the plugs and make sure they are not wet with gas which fouls them



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markman96

02-06-2014 14:52:47
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 14:49:08  
will do thanks for the advice. like i said we had it runing just last night. plowing even! this morning wont even fire a single cylinder



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02-06-2014 14:57:25
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 14:52:47  
Ya snow makes water which can short of the spark inside the distributor that is why we say check spark then carb



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markman96

02-06-2014 15:05:38
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 14:57:25  
alrighy i will check spark and get right back to you. thank you



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02-06-2014 15:20:36
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 15:05:38  
While not the best way to check for a distributor cap that is cracked but works well is hold one hand on the cap and spin it over trying to start it. If you jump 10 feet then you know you have cracked distributor cap



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markman96

02-06-2014 15:25:53
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 15:20:36  
so i have good spark at all 4 cylinders. how ever the number 4 cylinder(farthest from radiator) the spark is good bvut it seems to be half as frequent.



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02-06-2014 15:38:38
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 15:25:53  
Did you replace the points when you did the tune up?? If yes what did you set the gap at?? If I remember right you have the side mount distributor which means you should have the points gaped at 0.025. Spark that is hit and miss can be gap set wrong or distributor shaft bushing getting bad etc. Check point gap at all 4 lobes o the distributor and make sure they are the same. Oh and by the way did you buy the good parts or the cheap might be ok China parts

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markman96

02-06-2014 15:44:09
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 15:38:38  
i noticed the distributer shaft didnt have any side to side play how ever it did have a little bit of tortion play. and i actualy did only check at one lobe so i will check all right now. but i have good spark at all plugs. jjust a bit unfrequent at the fourth.so shouldent i have been getting some ignition at least? cuase i am still getting none



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02-06-2014 15:52:17
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 15:44:09  
Pull the carb to air cleaner tube off and make sure you do not have a carb full of gas. If you do then it is flooded and you need to clean the plugs by heating them up with a lighter etc. If no gas then try starting it and hold your hand over the carb air intake. It may even try to start. When real cold out I have to do that on my 841 at times



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markman96

02-06-2014 16:03:13
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 15:52:17  
well my carb is not flooded. and i put my had over the carvb and it had good sucking but still nothing was firing



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02-06-2014 16:11:09
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 16:03:13  
What plugs do you have in it?? You might try pulling the plugs and make sure they are not fouled out and also make sure each has a blue/white park at the plug them self. If you do not have auto lite 437s you should look into getting a set of them



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markman96

02-06-2014 16:14:29
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 16:11:09  
as of now we have champion h12 plugs in the tractor. also when we bought it it had 2 anti foulers on the 2 and 4 cylinders. is that meant to be? or just some ingenuity on the previous owners part



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02-06-2014 16:47:54
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 16:14:29  
Those anti foulers are on just to cover up oil burning problems. I would buy a set of auto lite 437 plugs they are by far better then the chaps and with this newer crap gas seem to work better. By the way if it would help you can send me an e-mail and I'll give you my home number. I have found some times it help a person to be able to talk one on one and have had many call me over the years



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markman96

02-06-2014 16:50:59
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 16:47:54  
we have a set of autolite 437 laying around i wiull try those right now. thanks for the helpi wil let you know what i find



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02-06-2014 17:46:59
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 16:50:59  
thanks all for the help we got her going!



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02-06-2014 18:48:33
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to markman96, 02-06-2014 17:46:59  
Good for you so what did you find wrong



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markman96

02-07-2014 07:11:43
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 Re: 8n wont start in reply to old, 02-06-2014 18:48:33  
apologies for the late reply as i have been plowing. and after trying the new 437s and playing with the distributer cap i was able tyo get her running. thanks all for help



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