9N Won't turn over

Jim Shepard · Jan 28, 2014

After sitting since summer (the tractor, not me), I tried to start it
yesterday. It turned over but wouldn't catch.
Tried again & it caught a couple of times but
wouldn't run. Cleaned plugs, put in fresh gas,
tested & charged battery (6V). Tried to start it
again but nothing, no cranking, no clicking, no
amp movement, no sound. By-passed starter button
by laying screw driver across starter terminals.
Nothing. Had battery checked by Napa - OK. Cleaned
all terminals. Put in another good battery &
nothing. Anything I'm missing?

Royse · Jan 28, 2014

Starter drive gear could be stuck in the ring gear.
Put it in high gear and rock it back and forth using the rear tire.
It doesn't have to go far, but far enough to turn the engine.
That may pop it loose so you can start it again.
If not, you may want to take the starter loose and look.

old · Jan 28, 2014

As Royse says or your starter may have gone bad

Jim Shepard · Jan 28, 2014

But shouldn't I get some noise out of the starter
even if it's bad. It's only a couple of years old.
Would it be completely dead, making no sound at
all?

Royse · Jan 28, 2014

If your 9N is wired as original, it has no solenoid to "click".
It has a mechanical switch to connect the battery to the starter.
No noise from that.
You could take the starter out and test it. (or have it tested)
I try to do the easy/cheap things first, like rocking the tire.

Jim Shepard · Jan 28, 2014

Just rocked it - nothing. How does one test a
starter?

old · Jan 28, 2014

You can maybe test it one of a few ways.
#1 Use a heavy cable like a battery jump cable etc and go from the ignition side of the battery to the starter. Make 1000% sure it is out of gear. Touch the stud on the starter. If good it should spin the engine over. If all it does is spark it is locked up in the ring gear or bad. If no spark bad or bad ground
#2 remove the starter. Be careful since these starter come all apart if you pull them out with out installing nuts on the starter bolts. Then take it to an auto parts store. Do not tell them it is 6 volts or you might confuse them

dbNga · Jan 28, 2014

Corrosion never sleeps internally or externally.

souNdguy · Jan 28, 2014

when you screwdriver jumpered it. any sparks?

if no sparks jumping starter to power.. time to pull starter. migth be rusted up brushes/holders....

Jim Shepard · Jan 28, 2014

No spark, no nothing. Starter is about 2 years old. I pulled it and I don't see anything obvious. I'll have it tested.

L.B, · Jan 29, 2014

I am reading this diff then others. you said starter turned the motor over at first? Fresh gas but is it turned on at sed bowl and getting to carb and cylinders? Fully charged battery and starter not doing anything clean and double check all connections to make good contact. Where the starter mates to the tractor must be free of any crud,clean both surfaces so the started has a good ground or it wont do its job.

souNdguy · Jan 29, 2014

ohm meter from starter stud to case.

Ed Douglas · Jan 29, 2014

Jim......could not figure out from the post if you said you pulled the starter....only that it was two years old......I had an 8n do the same.....the drive got stuck in the flywheel....got it free.....the ring was good....bench tested the starter.....it was good.....a little grease on the drive teeth of the starter.......its 8 years later!!

Let us know.....nothing like a good mystery!!

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