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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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9N Won't turn over

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Jim Shepard

01-28-2014 14:15:04
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After sitting since summer (the tractor, not me), I tried to start it yesterday. It turned over but wouldn't catch. Tried again & it caught a couple of times but wouldn't run. Cleaned plugs, put in fresh gas, tested & charged battery (6V). Tried to start it again but nothing, no cranking, no clicking, no amp movement, no sound. By-passed starter button by laying screw driver across starter terminals. Nothing. Had battery checked by Napa - OK. Cleaned all terminals. Put in another good battery & nothing. Anything I'm missing?

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Ed Douglas

01-29-2014 13:23:41
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 14:15:04  
Jim......could not figure out from the post if you said you pulled the starter....only that it was two years old......I had an 8n do the same.....the drive got stuck in the flywheel....got it free.....the ring was good....bench tested the starter.....it was good.....a little grease on the drive teeth of the starter.......its 8 years later!!

Let us know.....nothing like a good mystery!!



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L.B,

01-29-2014 00:21:13
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 14:15:04  
I am reading this diff then others. you said starter turned the motor over at first? Fresh gas but is it turned on at sed bowl and getting to carb and cylinders? Fully charged battery and starter not doing anything clean and double check all connections to make good contact. Where the starter mates to the tractor must be free of any crud,clean both surfaces so the started has a good ground or it wont do its job.

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soundguy

01-28-2014 17:12:25
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 14:15:04  
when you screwdriver jumpered it. any sparks?

if no sparks jumping starter to power.. time to pull starter. migth be rusted up brushes/holders....



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Jim Shepard

01-28-2014 19:10:51
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to soundguy, 01-28-2014 17:12:25  
No spark, no nothing. Starter is about 2 years old. I pulled it and I don't see anything obvious. I'll have it tested.



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soundguy

01-29-2014 05:54:57
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 19:10:51  
ohm meter from starter stud to case.



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Royse

01-28-2014 15:32:55
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 14:15:04  
If your 9N is wired as original, it has no solenoid to "click".

It has a mechanical switch to connect the battery to the starter.

No noise from that.
You could take the starter out and test it. (or have it tested)

I try to do the easy/cheap things first, like rocking the tire.



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Jim Shepard

01-28-2014 15:52:56
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Royse, 01-28-2014 15:32:55  
Just rocked it - nothing. How does one test a starter?



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old

01-28-2014 16:01:08
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 15:52:56  
You can maybe test it one of a few ways. #1 Use a heavy cable like a battery jump cable etc and go from the ignition side of the battery to the starter. Make 1000% sure it is out of gear. Touch the stud on the starter. If good it should spin the engine over. If all it does is spark it is locked up in the ring gear or bad. If no spark bad or bad ground
#2 remove the starter. Be careful since these starter come all apart if you pull them out with out installing nuts on the starter bolts. Then take it to an auto parts store. Do not tell them it is 6 volts or you might confuse them

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old

01-28-2014 14:27:42
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 14:15:04  
As Royse says or your starter may have gone bad



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Royse

01-28-2014 14:20:47
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 14:15:04  
Starter drive gear could be stuck in the ring gear.

Put it in high gear and rock it back and forth using the rear tire.

It doesn't have to go far, but far enough to turn the engine.

That may pop it loose so you can start it again.

If not, you may want to take the starter loose and look.



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Jim Shepard

01-28-2014 15:18:49
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Royse, 01-28-2014 14:20:47  
But shouldn't I get some noise out of the starter even if it's bad. It's only a couple of years old. Would it be completely dead, making no sound at all?



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dbnga

01-28-2014 16:56:36
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 Re: 9N Won't turn over in reply to Jim Shepard, 01-28-2014 15:18:49  
Corrosion never sleeps internally or externally.



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