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Ready for snow...... (with PICs)

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Bigdawg

11-10-2013 16:50:23
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I don"t see any reason why this shouldn"t work. Just hooked it up this afternoon. Blade angles from front bucket hydraulics.




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oldtanker

11-15-2013 19:42:12
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
Looks like it should work. I like mine better, 1206 IH, cab and heat, with a 8 foot blower. Cab with heat. Really moves snow fast! Did I mention it has a cab and heat? Really nice on the 8 mile drive to do the MIL's drive.

Rick



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Charlie T in Va

11-13-2013 19:29:45
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
If you want to compare a CAT track loader working, lifting & pushing material to Small Ford tractor with a loader, than yea your right. When you want to compare apples to apples let see what happens!!!!



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Charlie T in VA

11-13-2013 08:56:25
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
BigDawg, Nice looking setup. Love the tractor. I have a question regarding the connection to the loader frame. Since most loaders are not designed for pushing, would it have been better to add the connections to the frame (in front of the tractor) vs the loader??? then use the loader to lift the blade?? Just figured the frame could take more abuse (pushing) than the loader (cylinders). Thank You Charlie

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BigDawg

11-13-2013 09:35:36
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Charlie T in VA, 11-13-2013 08:56:25  
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I suspect you are correct. This was easier and should serve the purpose.



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TheOldHokie

11-13-2013 09:02:48
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Charlie T in VA, 11-13-2013 08:56:25  
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Who ever told you loaders are not designed for pushing? That is job one with a loader - how else would you fill the bucket? They push very heavy loads all day long in the course of normal loader work....

TOH



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Charlie T in VA

11-13-2013 10:59:11
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to TheOldHokie, 11-13-2013 09:02:48  
My Uncle always said if you wanted to push stuff then use a dozer. A loader is made for lifting, even when you are scooping dirt, stone extra, your lifting as your moving forward to fill the bucket, not pushing. A loader is not designed to be a dozer (pushing).

I was just asking a question about the connection to the loader frame, though it looked professional and will most likely do everything he is tring to accomplish, I THINK he would have more pushhing ability if he had connected to the tractor frame. (i.e. like a truck or a dozer). The snow plow is putting all the stress on the loader and cylinders, again I THINK, the tractor would be more suited for that.

Charlie

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TheOldHokie

11-13-2013 16:07:24
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Charlie T in VA, 11-13-2013 10:59:11  
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Somebody should call up my friend Drex (see pictures below) and tell him he is been using the wrong machine and has been for the last 50 years!!! He and his men have pushed a lot of dirt, stone, and logs with his multi-million dollar fleet of loaders, dozers. hoes, excavators, pans, and trucks in those 50 years!!!

Dozers and loaders are BOTH designed to push in their own specialized way!!!! When a loader lifts a bucket of material the cylinders and lift arms are PUSHING it up just like they are when they are pushing it along the ground.

TOH



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Colin King

11-11-2013 19:17:47
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
I like that! Nice set-up. I hope that you get plenty of seat time this winter.

Colin, MN



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m35a2

11-11-2013 06:01:35
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
Bigdawg, you'll be just fine. I've been running a loader mounted plow for years without any problem and have moved a LOT of snow. I would however replace the chain with a solid link. I use a spare 3 point top link. As far as the front end getting pushed to the side while angle plowing, just lift the loader an inch or two. Putting the full weight of the loader and plow onto the front tires will usually give you all the traction you need.

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NoNewParts

11-11-2013 03:52:36
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
nice work

It'll work fine.

Personally, I'd only push straight with it, or at a very, very shallow angle.

Loader frames look tough, but they ain't.

very easy to bend them.

On my plow tractors I do it kinda opposite from a plow truck.

truck...get er wail'n...high speed

tractor...slow and use the tractors 'grunt' power



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BigDawg

11-11-2013 04:30:12
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to NoNewParts, 11-11-2013 03:52:36  
Good advise. Thanks. If folks new how small my driveway is, they would wonder what da hell I need a plow for.
I will probably help out the neighbors if we get a big snow - and I'm in the mood.

THanks again.

BigDawg

WIsconsin



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TheOldHokie

11-11-2013 04:46:03
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to BigDawg, 11-11-2013 04:30:12  
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I've done the same thing with my Kubota and an old Myers plow I have. Keeping the thing plowing straight ahead with the blade angled is tough - big lever arm pushing the front wheels sideways. Still better than plowing in reverse ;-)

TOH



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Bill Rowles

11-11-2013 02:15:41
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
In addition to the traction problem identified by several reviewers of your design, I would think you need a solid link instead of the chain as your "third link" because as you get a large accumulation of snow/ice/slush in front of the plow, the force will cause the top link to go into compressive stress and chains don't do any better than rope in that mode.



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BigDawg

11-11-2013 04:33:13
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bill Rowles, 11-11-2013 02:15:41  
Are you serious? or being sarcastic?

Think of how a plow works on a truck or ATV. The plow sits on the ground and is pushed. IF you hit something, the top of the plow moves forward and the springs bring it back to normal.



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Bill Rowles

11-13-2013 00:03:25
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to BigDawg, 11-11-2013 04:33:13  
I agree if the object hit is low (on the blade edge), but if the object is high on the plow (such as a large chuck of material) the plow may lift....I would make an upper link to prevent possible rotation of the plow if it were mine.



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BillM (OH)

11-10-2013 21:28:11
173.81.12.217



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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
That oughta do it if you plow frequently - nice work!



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L.B,

11-10-2013 18:36:53
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
Theres one way to know but with all the global warming I doubt you will get a chance,wink. Well post after you get a chance to try it. Have you given any thought to the hyd line not catching or snagging something the way it is exposed? Just a thought.



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Bigdawg

11-10-2013 18:41:59
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to L.B,, 11-10-2013 18:36:53  
Yeah, I just hooked it up. I have a few minor adjustments to make. Most of the weight comes off the front when I place the blade on the ground, like on a truck, so I am just pushing the blade.



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L.B,

11-10-2013 23:05:08
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 18:41:59  
Well post back when ya push snow.



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Kurt-NEPA

11-10-2013 18:17:29
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
I think you'll be OK. My only concern is the weight up front taking traction away from the rear wheels. A set of wheel weights or loaded tires would help. Chains are a must.
I have a Sauder power angle plow on my 660 with pie weights and chains. I works fine, but traction is marginal, I could use more weight out back. I was going to use my Woods 3 pt. mower this winter, but I found a Smyth snow thrower for a reasonable price. I'll give that a try. I'll bet reverse is too fast.

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Michford

11-11-2013 20:15:32
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Kurt-NEPA, 11-10-2013 18:17:29  

I use a 6.5 foot wide snowblower behind my 860, and yes, reverse is too fast. I found that I could deal with the speed issue easily though by taking passes narrower than the full blower width if need be in deeper snow. Still had to stop moving to let the blower clean out on the first pass with full width in deeper snow. I like blowing snow better than plowing snow, its nice not having snowbanks.

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john B. ne in

11-15-2013 10:33:22
67.236.136.116



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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Michford, 11-11-2013 20:15:32  
I like your bar tires on the front. I'm guessing most people who just glance at your tractor probably think it's 4 wheel drive. Great conversation piece.



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notjustair

11-10-2013 17:30:16
174.238.68.12



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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
Hang something HEAVY off of the three point. That baby is going to be like a pig on ice.

I've always thought of making an adapter to put my three point blade on the loader of my IH.



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Royse

11-10-2013 17:17:52
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
Looks good, I want to hook mine up like that too.

I would expect a lot of lateral movement when angled.

Be careful it doesn't bend your loader frame to the side.



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01BIRDDOG

11-10-2013 17:01:59
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  
I would say that it will work fine but i want to comment on the excellent quality of work you do also.



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Bigdawg

11-10-2013 17:00:50
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 16:50:23  

pic no 5



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duey

11-10-2013 17:22:55
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to Bigdawg, 11-10-2013 17:00:50  
I wonder how much ANGLE push you will get with the blade that far from the front tires....

Like with any lever, the farther away from the tires, the less effective they are...

I reckon you will be able to build a tall pile of snow going straight in..

Will you be dealing with much wind-driven and hard drifts?



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Bigdawg

11-10-2013 17:27:36
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 Re: Ready for snow...... (with PICs) in reply to duey, 11-10-2013 17:22:55  
My driveway isn't very long. To tell the truth, I really don't need this big of a plow. I just like to tinker. I have chains for he rear tires if I need them.



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Bigdawg

11-10-2013 16:56:15
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Bigdawg

11-10-2013 16:54:33
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Bigdawg

11-10-2013 16:53:11
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