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Ultradog MN

10-05-2013 17:12:45
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Ed,
I bought the 14" rims about 10 years ago. So been running tubeless since then.
Easy to plug a tire if you get a hole in it without taking it off the tractor.
I parted out a tractor once that had calcium in the rear tires. Sold the tires/rims/centers to a friend of mine.
Rims looked fine from the outside but when he started to break them down to paint them they just collapsed like they were made of tin foil.
They were filled with calcium and No tubes.
Who would have thought...

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Ed Douglas

10-06-2013 06:47:33
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-05-2013 17:12:45  
Yeah really Udog!!......so what do you load in your tubeless tires that doesn't corrode?
Do you load them? if so...what with?.....sure like the idea!!



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Royse

10-06-2013 07:44:47
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Ed Douglas, 10-06-2013 06:47:33  
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There's a newer product called Rim Guard that a lot of guys use.
Commonly known as "Beet Juice" around here. Less corrosive but
costs about 3x as much in my area.

Others use Windshield wiper fluid bought in bulk, or just plain old
water in warmer climates. These don't weigh quite as much as
calcium, but they're not nearly as corrosive either.

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Ed Douglas

10-06-2013 08:12:05
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Royse, 10-06-2013 07:44:47  
Thanks Royce....something to go on!



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Ultradog MN

10-06-2013 07:38:56
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Ed Douglas, 10-06-2013 06:47:33  
The truth is I don't run fluid.
I prefer cast iron. Harder to find and not inexpensive when you find it. But if you get a flat it doesn't run out on the ground :)
There are a Lot of different types of Ford weights. Or you can get creative and roll your own...

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Ed Douglas

10-06-2013 08:21:11
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-06-2013 07:38:56  
Thanks for the pics UDog....kinda like this get ride of the liquid weight idea......I particularly like the rear shot of the Ford with the plates bolted to the axles......a one and done to be sure!....got that one on the project list now!



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TheOldHokie

10-05-2013 17:20:13
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-05-2013 17:12:45  
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I think "newer" tractor rims must be painted with better coatings. The tubeless rears on my Kubota have been filled with CaCl since new in 1983 and the last time the tires were replaced the rims looked absolutely pristine....

TOH



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Ultradog MN

10-06-2013 01:54:00
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to TheOldHokie, 10-05-2013 17:20:13  
TOH, As Jimmyjack says, are you sure it's CaCl?
I don't doubt they have some coatings that woulod resist it. A guy would sure have to be careful with the tire spoons when installing/removing a tire though. One scratch in the paint and...



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TheOldHokie

10-06-2013 07:59:31
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Ultradog MN, 10-06-2013 01:54:00  

Ultradog MN said: (quoted from post at 04:54:00 10/06/13) TOH, As Jimmyjack says, are you sure it's CaCl?

I don't doubt they have some coatings that woulod resist it. A guy would sure have to be careful with the tire spoons when installing/removing a tire though.
One scratch in the paint and...


Positive. I watched S&S Tire pump it out, mix the new fill from a 50# bag of CaCl, and pump it in. Local dealer loads tires on new machines with the same stuff. There was a little chipped paint along the outer part of the bead but nothing inside where it was exposed to the solution. I don't know the how of it but they don't corrode anything like the N's do.

TOH
This post was edited by TheOldHokie at 08:00:39 10/06/13.

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Jimmyjack

10-05-2013 18:37:06
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to TheOldHokie, 10-05-2013 17:20:13  
I trust your judgement, but sometime lick it, I cant fathom any rims lasting that long with salt in them.



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showcrop

10-06-2013 04:36:02
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 Re: Tire Day in reply to Jimmyjack, 10-05-2013 18:37:06  
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The eroding of the rims is oxidation, same as rusting. It uses up oxygen, and once the oxygen that is in there is used up the process stops. Though I don't like it any better than anyone else. It is common practice now to load tubeless tires. I have a ZT mower that was about six years old when I got it. It had a slow leak and loaded tires. The inside of the rim had turned dark gray and didn't appear to have lost any amount of metal.

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