Apparently I screwed something up in my first post so i'll type it again. On our way home we stopped and looked at 2 tractors to end the day. one being an 8n and the other a jubilee. The 8n which I couldn't read the serial # had a different manifold that what I think is a nan manifold. I didn't take any pics. Although it doesn't have the correct gas tank to be a nan. The block had 8n d cast into it. What does that mean. Its a front mount. Oil pressure guage didn't work so I dunno how that was. We had to jump the solenoid to start it and it didn't sound real healthy upon first start up. Rear tires were not great, hydraulic pump knocked. He has a new aftermarket hood, dog legs, and grill for it. He wants 1300. I didn't even make an offer. Sediment bowl had 1/3 full of rust. I drove it forward and reverse and all gears were good. No play in the rear or front, although the right front radius arm had quite the welded patch job. What makes me wonder is the different larger manifold. Like what was on the nan. I would only guess beings we've been through a rebuild before at the cost of a grand it's gonna need rebuilt. Jumping it it had a hard time turning over. It's still 6v and he has an 8v bat in it and I believe he had it hooked up backwards anyhow. as much as he was trying to get that battery to charge making sparky sparkies I was waiting for the battery to blow. The other is a 54 jubilee, tin isn't good, except the fenders, has some cozy cab on it which a tree fell on. It does have live power. And also a loader. Hard starting. It does have inner wheel weights which I would love to have. 1 good rear tire and both rear rims are goos. He wants a grand for it. I personally didn't think it was worth that much but to each his own. I didn't hear that one run. May be a nice parts tractor of our 53 I guess. Rear seals leak. I really need to stop with buying tractors and work on what we already have but I also think the live power would be nice to put on our jube.