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gwstang 03-10-2013 16:39:39 12.230.229.182 Report to Moderator	I put some pics in the tractor talk forum of the plowing the last day or so. Dang that's harder work than it looks like. I guess I can tell on myself since we are among friends here. I had the 2 bottom plow on and was having a heck of a time with the tractor ('52 8N) choking down and trying to die. I kept having to feather the touch control lever to go up or down and run the tractor about wide open in 1st gear to plow with it. I did this for about an hour and was slap worn out from bending over to hold the lever etc. I stopped for a few minutes to slosh down some water and got to looking and realized I had the top link in the bottom hole. It doesn't do much good to have the lever under the seat down for plowing and not have the dang top link in the top hole so it can sense what is going on with the plow. I swapped it and it plowed just as smooth as silk in half throttle and never choked even once. Boy howdy, I felt like the biggest dummy around after that...lol It was so much easier on me and the tractor when things were set up as they are supposed to be! :oops: [Reply]   [No Email]
Bill Rowles 03-11-2013 05:51:10 76.2.232.2 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   Good job plowing for first time out. As others have said, the top hole in the third(feedback) link is to be used for light duty pulling with an attachment such as a cultivator, through soil that is already tilled and soft. You will damage the hydraulic system using it for plowing hard ground. If the system was working right, the plow should have been jumping out of the ground while plowing with the excess feedback (in the third hole) which should have caused over-reaction of the hydraulic system when you had the linkage hooked-up wrong....maybe your system needs to be repaired or adjusted to make the draft control work right while plowing with the link in the lowest hole (least sensitive feedback).   [Reply]  [No Email]
gwstang 03-12-2013 17:31:49 12.230.229.182 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to Bill Rowles, 03-11-2013 05:51:10   The plow would move up and down some. I think the 2 bottom was a might much for land that hadn't been plowed in 30 or so years. Lots of roots over on the far half and the ground was quite compacted from driving on it mowing etc. When I had it in the top hole for the 1 row cultivator, it would rock up and down if i just applied my weight to it. I am thinking from the info here that I can use the top hole with the cultivator and it would be okay to add a couple of cement blocks for a little more weight? Thanks for all the info btw.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Tim 'PloughNman' Daley 03-11-2013 03:11:58 24.247.196.15 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   Lowest hole position on rocker, USE 2nd gear -it is for plowing -probably your problem of bogging down.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Dave in Wyoming 03-10-2013 22:01:15 67.215.25.212 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   gwstang, I gotta ask about your truck. How long have you had it, and did you get it from Iowa?? A buddy in Central Iowa was building one JUST LIKE yours several years ago, and had to sell it before he got it finished. Same color. Just curious. Looks Great!!!! Dave   [Reply]  [No Email]
gwstang 03-11-2013 17:48:45 12.230.229.182 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to Dave in Wyoming, 03-10-2013 22:01:15   The truck originally came out of Texas with a family that moved over this way. They traded it to a fellow for a mower or something. My son saw it looking pitiful with windows off the track and fallen down into the door, no motor/tranny etc and just had to have it. He was 12 at the time so we spent lots of time/money fixing it up. He got to learn about how to put an engine together and install tranny/engine and wire it all up. He did take it to a body shop guy he knew to paint it the custom color. I painted the mustang myself.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Colin King 03-10-2013 19:38:18 71.49.82.117 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   Top link or no (that was an amusing story!), I think you did a great job! Colin, MN   [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 03-10-2013 18:52:08 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   The plow will get easier to pull now that its shined up, and the soil will turn easier. Less resistance in the soil without the rust. New points may help it too, I couldn't really see them in the pics I looked at. Glad to see you putting them both to good use! Here's a picture of a little plowing I did a year or so ago. It was my first attempt in many years, but it worked out ok. Everything on my plow had some rust too, you can see how the clay clung to it.   [Reply]  [No Email]
gwstang 03-12-2013 17:26:53 12.230.229.182 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to Royse, 03-10-2013 18:52:08   That is a big field you are going to plow. I have 72 acres, but only about 15 that I keep mowed and would be suitable for good plow land. I do keep some trails cut through the other.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Elvin Frank 03-10-2013 18:17:07 98.67.129.192 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   It is supposed to be in the bottom hole, if you put it in the top and hit a root or rock or something else that dont give you stand a chance of either breaking the rocker or tearing the big spring clean off the housing, dont know enough about it to say why it worked better but I do know that ground engaging equipment belongs in the bottome hole, look at it this way, a 9n will pull any plow an 8n will and it has a 1 hole rocker, plowing is an art especially setting one where it will plow correctly and easily.   [Reply]  [No Email]
gwstang 03-10-2013 18:38:08 12.230.229.182 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to Elvin Frank, 03-10-2013 18:17:07   Yikes, I did hit a lot of roots over on the side by the trees. maybe that was why the bogging down so bad. It was easier in the middle and closer side. Lots of rocks around here but not many bigger than a basketball, I hope it don't break something. I will do as ya'll said and use the bottom hole next. I always thought the top or middle hole was for farming with plows and things like that and the bottom hole was safe with the box blade and bush hogging. :oops: So what is the top and middle hole used for?   [Reply]  [No Email]
Hobo,NC 03-10-2013 18:07:37 98.17.107.107 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   I had the top link in the bottom hole That's were its spose to go... I made a mess on the first few solo attempts also... You will figger it out... I do my plow'n in Feb but its been to wet and will be unless we can have some warm weather and NO rain...   [Reply]  [No Email]
gwstang 03-10-2013 18:32:30 12.230.229.182 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to Hobo,NC, 03-10-2013 18:07:37   I wondered why it was easier...thanks for the info, I will do that next time. I think the 2 bottom is just a little too much for a worn 8N. When i have time, I will take one of them off and try it in the bottom hole. Bet it will go much better then.   [Reply]  [No Email]
gwstang 03-10-2013 16:42:20 12.230.229.182 Report to Moderator	Re: Yeah, I went and done it now... in reply to gwstang, 03-10-2013 16:39:39   Here is the other thread http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=1000762   [Reply]  [No Email]