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Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running.

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R Geiger

02-10-2013 08:59:40
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I don't doubt it when you say you have good fuel flow, but how long will it flow like that. Will it fill a pint jar in 2 to 3 minutes. May start out good but then start to dribble. Just a thought.




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nondem

02-10-2013 09:07:17
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to R Geiger, 02-10-2013 08:59:40  
I ran probably 2-3 pints out attempting to flush the carb w/o removing it - letting it fill the bowl and drain it several times. I know the inline fuel filter is redundant and would never put on myself.

Here is a pic of it.



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GB in MT.

02-10-2013 13:07:25
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to nondem, 02-10-2013 09:07:17  
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Sorry guys....but I am gonna say somthing here, that might tic a couple of you off!!!!

BTW.....I am one of the "Don't use an added/inline fuel filter" !!!....

(they CAN/WILL SOMETIMES, cause fuel flow problems!!!!!!!!

That said, in this case, I have never seen a filter such as shown in the picture, installed in that configuration.!!!!!
To me....that filter looks to have been installed up-side-down!!!!!!
If that is the case...yes it will leach fuel through it to the carb, BUT, not in the quantity that the carb needs to operate properly!!!!!!

I could be wrong, but I've seen a lot of filters just like that one, in use.... just never installed THAT way.!!!!

Check the picture again............RIGHT? ......WRONG????

GB :?

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old

02-10-2013 13:56:43
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to GB in MT., 02-10-2013 13:07:25  
You asked up higher which picture this one just above this post of yours



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GB in MT.

02-10-2013 14:27:18
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to old, 02-10-2013 13:56:43  
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SO, if you only saw one pic., in this post.......you must have missed his first one, where he posted the short-cut to the pic. of the tractor, while it was on the trailer???????

That is what happens when you don't double check BOTH sides of the forum...(MOD...VRS....CLASSIC side!!!)

The pic you saw is his second pic, which I might add, is in my reply to him with that very same pic., in a quote by me.

BOTH pictures have the same fuel filter on his engine,....orientated the SAME way!!!!!!

SO........back to my reply to him w/a quote...........

MY question was/is........is the fuel filter up-side-down......OR NOT!!!!!

MY guess was/is....if YES the filter is up-side-down, then the filter was NOT getting enough fuel to the carb, fast enough to keep the engine running properly!!!!!

END of argueing about whether it was a good idea for that filter.......JUST

YES....OR.....NO was/is the filter up-side-down in his picture?????????

GB :roll:

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old

02-10-2013 16:27:24
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to GB in MT., 02-10-2013 14:27:18  
With out seeing the arrow that should be on it I can not say. I have seen filters that look like that one that could be set on correctly and look like that one and others that it would have been upside down. With being on dial up I have found doing the classic works the best so almost never go to the modern side



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old

02-10-2013 09:16:32
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to nondem, 02-10-2013 09:07:17  
In line fuel filter throw it as far away as you can then post back if it runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I have found when one runs like that that the fuel filter is the cause. I have thrown so many of those away I do not even go to the guys place o do it any more I just tell them to remove it then call me back if that did not fix it and so far the only call back I have gotten was to say yep that fixed it

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nondem

02-10-2013 11:03:04
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to old, 02-10-2013 09:16:32  
Heh - hats off to you sir. It runs now. With the volume and quantity of fuel that was passing through it I can't believe that was the problem....but it was.

It runs good at any rpm but it still stumbles and backfires a bit when going over a hump or small hill as I drive it around. No smoke/knocking and the 3-pt system appears to work as it should...I think i lucked out on my $500 investment...and it would have been worth that w/a seized engine.



Major-thanks for the advice. I knew that filter didn't belong....


old said: (quoted from post at 13:16:32 02/10/13) In line fuel filter throw it as far away as you can then post back if it runs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I have found when one runs like that that the fuel filter is the cause. I have thrown so many of those away I do not even go to the guys place o do it any more I just tell them to remove it then call me back if that did not fix it and so far the only call back I have gotten was to say yep that fixed it

This post was edited by nondem at 11:04:51 02/10/13.

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old

02-10-2013 11:40:27
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to nondem, 02-10-2013 11:03:04  
Now then if it still back fires that says it is running a tad bit lean open the main jet up a tad bit. Years ago when I got a call to figure out the fuel filter problem I charged the person a case of Busch beer just to throw it away but that got old so I just tell them to pull the filter then call if that does not fix the problem



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ASEguy

02-11-2013 04:00:27
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to old, 02-10-2013 11:40:27  
What...and no adult refreshments?



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ASEguy

02-11-2013 04:00:22
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to old, 02-10-2013 11:40:27  
What...and no adult refreshments?



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old

02-11-2013 11:02:17
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to ASEguy, 02-11-2013 04:00:22  
No any more with the price of gas I figure I can buy my own and save or maybe make some $$ that way instead of loosing some $$



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nondem

02-10-2013 18:10:01
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to old, 02-10-2013 11:40:27  
I was detailed for another project this afternoon so I never got the chance to adjust the mixture for the stumble.
As far as the filter debate: It think it was in the right orientation on there - the element inside is on the downstream end and would make any debris it didn't allow past float around in view like the other filters I've used on motorcycles etc...

The odd thing about it was that it would never "fill up" with gas. it would get about half full at most. Like i said, I let it fill and empty the bowl several times and it was flowing WAY more gas than the engine could possibly burn even at full load. There is no arguing with success though.


old said: (quoted from post at 15:40:27 02/10/13) Now then if it still back fires that says it is running a tad bit lean open the main jet up a tad bit. Years ago when I got a call to figure out the fuel filter problem I charged the person a case of Busch beer just to throw it away but that got old so I just tell them to pull the filter then call if that does not fix the problem

This post was edited by nondem at 18:13:37 02/10/13.

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old

02-10-2013 18:48:30
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 Re: 1952 Sidemount won't stay running. in reply to nondem, 02-10-2013 18:10:01  
Take a real good look at that filter. It should have an arrow on it showing the flow. As for motor cycle filters yep BTDT for the past 42 plus years. Yep have had a motorcycle license now for well 43 years now. Still have a bike but have not rode in a year or more



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