641 voltage regulator

WayneMo

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I adjusted my regulator voltage output by increasing the spring force and my first attempt increased the voltage to 7.6 to 7.8 volts. This is above Jmor's specs of 7.1 to 7.5 volts. I will try to get within those specs but wonder what would fail with the voltage values above. Could the field coils in the generator and regulator stand these higher values or is it just about over charging the battery?
Another question on B circuit systems about checking the generator output. On A circuit systems, it is easy to just ground the field terminal taking the regulator out of the system and measuring the generator output. What about B circuit systems, could you just put full voltage on the generator field {after disconnecting the regulator} and measure the generator output, or is that too much strain on the generator field windings?
 
(quoted from post at 14:45:45 01/27/13) I adjusted my regulator voltage output by increasing the spring force and my first attempt increased the voltage to 7.6 to 7.8 volts. This is above Jmor's specs of 7.1 to 7.5 volts. I will try to get within those specs but wonder what would fail with the voltage values above. Could the field coils in the generator and regulator stand these higher values or is it just about over charging the battery?
Another question on B circuit systems about checking the generator output. On A circuit systems, it is easy to just ground the field terminal taking the regulator out of the system and measuring the generator output. What about B circuit systems, could you just put full voltage on the generator field {after disconnecting the regulator} and measure the generator output, or is that too much strain on the generator field windings?
es, "just put full voltage on the generator field" is acceptable, as this is exactly what is being done by regulator at times. Voltage measured under these conditions will largely depend on charge state of the battery, however. If you were to disconnect battery to ARM then generator voltage can reach damaging levels under full field conditions (>20 volts) & in a short time damage gen & regulator. I would NOT recommend such a disconnect.
A GM manual gives "set point" voltages for the VR and also "upper acceptable' voltages, with that being 7.6 volts. It is primarily to prevent overcharging the battery.
 
Thanks jmor that is good information. I think lots of guys here will benefit knowing how to check out generators. In the case of B systems, I would only use the full voltage to field test for a short time to determine if the generator was at fault.
As far as the voltage over the spec in my case, I use the tractor seldom and not for long running times either. I might be satisfied using the higher voltages in order to keep the battery fully charged. I would not think a battery would be damaged in that way with charging voltages up to 8 volts even. I appreciate your input!
 
(quoted from post at 15:38:39 01/27/13) Thanks jmor that is good information. I think lots of guys here will benefit knowing how to check out generators. In the case of B systems, I would only use the full voltage to field test for a short time to determine if the generator was at fault.
As far as the voltage over the spec in my case, I use the tractor seldom and not for long running times either. I might be satisfied using the higher voltages in order to keep the battery fully charged. I would not think a battery would be damaged in that way with charging voltages up to 8 volts even. I appreciate your input!
gree. You are welcome!
 

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