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OT----ENGINE LAY OUT

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01BIRDDOG

01-24-2013 10:13:14




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I have commented before on GB in MT and his laying out of his work before assy. and admire his approach to this. Here is an engine lay out just to check and measure parts before the work begins as to boring cylinders, lapping case races, valve guides and seats and the rest of the engine assy. It's just another day for me and another in this case twin cam HD engine.

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Hobo,NC

01-26-2013 06:25:01




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-24-2013 10:13:14  
First HD engine I built a 69 FLH a few weeks later one of the rollers went bad on a lifter,,, the worst part was getting the oil pump keys replaced while the engine was still in the bike....

Second engine a 73 super guide,,, somehow the bolts for the stater came loose and ate it up :cry:
Down the road I rebuilt one and installed a Andrews A grind cam,,, never could get it to start Andrews had pressed the drive gear on wrong :twisted:
On the 69 somewhere in the early 80"s I got hold of a 80" low-rider engine less the cases and swapped the whole lower end , jugs, head and my old FLH cam into the 69 cases...
I sold my HD scooter shop in the mid 80's to a employee no one had any money,,,, Only the local scooter trash rode'em (that includes me),,,, he was as good as it gets working on them.... Never did I think HD's would ever become a fad and folks with money would have to have one...
I went to Bowling Green KY in 1978 for the big boogie,,, It was the first time I saw Ray Price run his Funny Bike thru the quarter and tote the front wheel off the pavement the whole way....

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01BIRDDOG

01-26-2013 07:18:07




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to Hobo,NC, 01-26-2013 06:25:01  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeI could give a puke for the new yuppy scum HD trash. Not too common to see stuff screwed up from the mfg. like the drive gear on the Andrews cam but it sure happens. Take this and compare it to the XR four cam set up-----start with four cam lobes,four shafts and four gears. Set up degree wheel along with dial indicator, set opening of each cam lobe one at a time, dissemble entire cam chest ant T.I.G. each lobe to gear and press on shaft. Many,many hours to set up one of these engines. To compare these to the above yuppy engines, well you cant, not even in the same world.

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showcrop

01-25-2013 05:32:12




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-24-2013 10:13:14  
I don't think your prospects of it coming out right are very good. You won't be able to get any close work done properly with all the bright light reflecting back at you from all those polished parts, LOL.



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Bob Harvey

01-24-2013 16:52:10




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-24-2013 10:13:14  
Looks 'just right. ' to me. Forty years ago I ran a Porsche/V.W. shop. The guy that owned the joint was an ex-Porsche mechanic (he came around every couple of days to check the 'till'). The standard procedure was to do as you have shown in your picture. Thanks for the memory !



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01BIRDDOG

01-25-2013 06:05:28




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to Bob Harvey, 01-24-2013 16:52:10  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeOh yes i remember the days of the 4 cam, 356's and the wonderful mechanical fuel injection on the early 911 "S". The pump was driven by a belt and remember you had to use a mirror to set the pump timing when the engine was in the car.



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GB in MT.

01-25-2013 06:53:57




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-25-2013 06:05:28  
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B...Dog;

I'm impressed, with yer 'lay-out'!!!! If I was in the market for a bike engine rebuild, I wouldn't care how long it took ya to do it. Just from lookin' at the pic., I can tell that you, put 'That extra mile', in what you do.

'SLAM...BANG'....'GETTER DUN',....don't get it to MY way of thinking!!!!! :evil:
Where were you, when I was putting my 'VW TRIKE' together?????? :lol: :lol:
That was a LOT of yrs. ago!!!!! :shock:
Gary :wink:

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R Geiger

01-25-2013 09:31:52




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When I was overhauling jet turbine fuel controls, we found that it really sped up the time required if we had all the parts laid out. A lot less time was spent in looking for the parts. As it was it took about 100 hours per fuel control. I don't remember how many parts there were total but it had about 250 orings of various sizes in them. Don't miss it!!

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01BIRDDOG

01-25-2013 12:31:17




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to R Geiger, 01-25-2013 09:31:52  
Here is a sample of the engines i build. Quite a few "short rod" XR 750 race engines, and the usual Panhead,Knucklehead, WR, KR, and big inch stroker with square bore/stroke.



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2n4000

01-26-2013 05:38:59




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-25-2013 12:31:17  
Looks like you've got a lot of farm equipment broke down.



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ZANE

01-24-2013 14:22:50




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-24-2013 10:13:14  
Back when I was shop foreman and mechanic at the local IH dealership I hired a guy who told me he could do anything mechanical.

I gave him a Super A engine job to do. When he finally got through with about 10 working days later it was perfect. I fired him! We were paying him more than the labor for the job.

Get her done!!!

Zane



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Britcheflee

01-24-2013 10:58:09




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-24-2013 10:13:14  
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Wow!!! very well organized and extremely clean and tidy! wish my workshop was like that.



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TheOldHokie

01-24-2013 10:41:58




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 Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-24-2013 10:13:14  
[quote="01BIRDDOG"](quoted from post at 14:13:14 01/24/13) I have commented before on GB in MT and his laying out of his work before assy. and admire his approach to this. Here is an engine lay out just to check and measure parts before the work begins as to boring cylinders, lapping case races, valve guides and seats and the rest of the engine assy. It's just another day for me and another in this case twin cam HD engine. /quote]

What you got tucked against the back wall - doesn't look like a Bridgeport - Wells or perhaps Gorton?

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