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Bruce (VA) 01-22-2013 12:13:20 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	This hasn't been a good tractor day. In a perfect world, an N water pump will squeak or leak before it tosses the fan into the radiator. But alas, we do not live in a perfect world. No warning on this. The 'new style' shaft does not have a groove in it w/ a keeper pin. The pulley is pressed on to the shaft. The 'new' shaft (w/o the pulley)is on the left. Compare that to the one on the right. According to the rebuild shop, the old style shafts are NLA, but he might have one around. The radiator shop thinks they can fix the radiator. Oh well, at least it didn't happen in the middle of the garden season. And the anti-freeze needing changing anyway. :) 75 Tips [Reply]   [No Email]
Briar Hill Brittanys 01-23-2013 06:18:46 207.254.166.51 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   That happened to me last fall. Hummin' down the road in 4th, pulling my channeled JD grain drill on the way to a payin' gig. About 1/2 way to the field and BAM. Funny how the first thing that comes to mind when coasting to a stop is " Sonofa*!#@+, what in the Wide World of Sports just happened.....and how much is this gonna cost?" It's all good now, though. Good luck. Mark [Reply]  [No Email]
01BIRDDOG 01-23-2013 05:56:53 50.147.88.242 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Man bad luck on this. Cold down here in the tip of the Commonwealth (about 10 degrees) but mu old 8N started right up yesterday first time. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 01-23-2013 06:13:45 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-23-2013 05:56:53   War story....... "cool" mornings in V-N (as in the 70's) meant more lift; we could carry 8 Yards in the slicks. But only 6 on the afternoon. Of course, sometimes you only had 6 that were coming back anyway........ [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 01-23-2013 06:02:07 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to 01BIRDDOG, 01-23-2013 05:56:53   14* here in the warm part of the Commonwealth. I planned to start the one 6v 8N that lives outside just for S&G's, ("My 6v N started at 14*") but it's too damn cold out there for me (yea, forum members in MN, etc, are now LOL at us Southern boys whining about cold weather) I do need to get a bucket of wood up to the house; that job belongs to the 12v M-F diesel which had better start! [Reply]  [No Email]
POPGUN 01-22-2013 23:23:34 64.187.79.169 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Cut a groove and apply a snap-ring, [Reply]  [No Email]
BillM (OH) 01-22-2013 21:14:19 173.81.81.180 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Why not just put a spot weld on it - you can grind it off when/if you need to? [Reply]  [No Email]
pconnie..ks 01-22-2013 18:14:45 67.72.98.45 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   is there any test we can do, like loosening belt to test any play..front to back with fan blade..ect...phil [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 01-22-2013 18:59:40 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to pconnie..ks, 01-22-2013 18:14:45   Now that I know what to look for......just stick your finger on the end of the shaft. It should be flush w/ the pulley. If you feel a hole, the pulley is moving forward on the shaft. [Reply]  [No Email]
pconnie 01-23-2013 05:46:50 67.72.98.47 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 18:59:40   did the pump sieze, or the pully work loose [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 01-23-2013 05:49:40 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to pconnie, 01-23-2013 05:46:50   The pulley worked loose. [Reply]  [No Email]
TheOldHokie 01-22-2013 16:07:36 108.22.203.170 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see You know it ought to be pretty simple to drill and tap the end of the shaft for a #10 machine screw and a suitably sized flat washer. I wouldn't even be surprised to find a countersink on the end to help you start the drill bit :shock: Or if the shaft sticks out far enough send it to me along with the pulley and and I'll put a snap ring on the end for ya ;-) TOH [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 01-22-2013 18:57:54 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to TheOldHokie, 01-22-2013 16:07:36   If the rebuild shop can't locate an OEM shaft w/ a keeper pin in his supply room, I will try the screw & washer trick. And if that won't work, I will take you up on the offer! Tnx much. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-22-2013 16:14:07 107.41.139.171 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to TheOldHokie, 01-22-2013 16:07:36   your neighbors must love you. :) [Reply]  [No Email]
TheOldHokie 01-22-2013 16:46:12 108.22.203.170 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to soundguy, 01-22-2013 16:14:07   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Once my closest neighbor discovered the shop he brought me lots of things. Then he and his wife had a "failure to communicate" and he moved out. So now I'm lonely with just a couple of lazy lay-about locals to keep me company,,,, TOH [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-23-2013 05:31:56 184.247.214.214 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to TheOldHokie, 01-22-2013 16:46:12   good looking company. I'm an animal person! [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 01-22-2013 16:54:59 209.121.225.253 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to TheOldHokie, 01-22-2013 16:46:12   As long as those yocals know how to 'fetch' a beverage, you are doing OK !! [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-22-2013 16:02:48 107.41.139.171 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   sweet. looks like an 850 rad i have. i joke that it has more solder on it than copper and brass. good luck bro! [Reply]  [No Email]
Colin King 01-22-2013 15:56:27 71.49.82.117 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Yikes and ugh! What a lousy day. I'm glad to hear that both can be repaired. Colin, MN [Reply]  [No Email]
Royse 01-22-2013 14:30:45 69.36.49.151 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Ouch! Glad to hear they think they can fix it. I hope it works out that way! [Reply]  [No Email]
JMOR 01-22-2013 14:06:04 72.181.173.171 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeHappened to my old combine. Real sinking feeling! About 1/2 day and a boat load of silver solder, my now heavier radiator that looks like the proverbial bear's arse sewed up with a grapevine was back in operation. [Reply]  [No Email]
L.B, 01-22-2013 13:55:28 64.187.79.169 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Bruce, they should have no trouble with the radiator just get a new core thats what I did.Heck if you got lots of pin holes they might chase leaks forever.Re-core the old core style is still available cause of all the old Ford cars. Is this the N you just bought from your friend? [Reply]  [No Email]
Bruce (VA) 01-22-2013 19:01:37 24.125.80.178 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to L.B,, 01-22-2013 13:55:28   No, this one was on my first N; been using around here since 2000. [Reply]  [No Email]
Mr. T. Minnesota 01-22-2013 12:56:06 68.170.114.158 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   Bruce, What is the purpose of the keeper pin? Shouldn't the keeper pin have held the fan in place? Novice in Minnesota Mr. T. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob Harvey 01-22-2013 14:53:36 209.121.225.253 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Mr. T. Minnesota, 01-22-2013 12:56:06   Yes,and if you re-read, you will see "the new one did not have the keeper pin". [Reply]  [No Email]
tracman 01-22-2013 12:25:32 142.52.81.12 Report to Moderator	Re: What a fan will do to your radiator........... in reply to Bruce (VA), 01-22-2013 12:13:20   I am glad you can get it repaired. That would ruin my day. Is there anything that can be done to prevent it from happening again? [Reply]  [No Email]