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ZANE 01-19-2013 13:48:06 98.83.102.236 Report to Moderator	That charger will keep the Coons out of the chicken house or pen but it can kill them too. It is a continious charge that will paralize and electrocute anything that gets on it and is grounded at the same time. I believe it could kill a man if he got into it and the charge crossed his heart. I have one around my chicken pen about an inch away from the chicken wire and about six inches above the ground. The wire is also a ground. It has killed lots of rats. One of my free ranging roosters that was fighting with the one in the pen and he got across the hot wire. I got him off but he died a couple of days later. It also killed an owl that was trying to get in the chicken pen one night. A chicken snake can get across it too and become paralized but if I turn off the power it will come alive and crawl off. That is unless it has swallowed a half grown chicken!! If kids are to be around the wire I would not have it. The best kind are the ones that pulse a high voltage that can jump a gap of an inch or so. They will keep anything out but won't kill. May make you kill yourself! :O) Zane [Reply]   [No Email]
old 01-19-2013 15:09:19 209.86.226.58 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to ZANE, 01-19-2013 13:48:06   I do believe your wrong on that because if that type of fence charge could kill a man there is a law suit just waiting to happen and I have yet to ever here of such a suit going on. A company that had a fence charger that would be able to kill a man would be out of business fast due to all sort of safety issue. I use a continuous type charger and yes it hurts like a so and so and does kill small bird but that is about all it kills since by now I am sure it has been tested by more then one animal since it has been running now for 7 plus years. I do know my dogs sure do not like getting into it or the barn cats either both when they do you hear them complain [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-19-2013 14:16:52 184.247.33.27 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to ZANE, 01-19-2013 13:48:06   I have that fishock charger.. and I have a heavier one for cattle. i can guarantee you that neither will kill you.. might ruin your underwear in a desperate moment.. but ain't lethal unless you are a bird, lizard, or mouse or spider. and yes.. I'd been lit up by both of them before.. :) soundguy [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-19-2013 15:12:11 209.86.226.58 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-19-2013 14:16:52   Ya do not think a company could make or sell a fence charger that was able to kill much of any animals due to all the people who would be out to sue them. Also just think what would happen if the court system get wind of a charger like that boy or boy that company would be belly up plus owning alot [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-19-2013 15:22:58 184.247.33.27 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-19-2013 15:12:11   yep. I've had roosters get betweent he hotwire and the pen and squawk and make a huge rukus and fidgit for 30-40 seconds before extricating themselves. no harm no fowl ( pun intended ). Now.. i HAVE seen a small bird, mose and lizard and spider die.. as mentioned. have for sure seen that... [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-19-2013 17:34:01 209.86.226.27 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-19-2013 15:22:58   Ya common for me in the summer to have to turn off the fence charger, remove dead bird and turn it back on due the the fact the bird shorts the fence out but other then that no harm no fowl or maybe should say dead fowl (pun intended). Oh and one thing I like to do if I find a black snake in the chicken house I catch it then lay ot on the electric fence and boy or boy dose that snake do a snake dance [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-19-2013 18:35:36 184.233.238.12 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-19-2013 17:34:01   my roosters and turkey will kill most snakes.. they are mean suckers.. :) rats too.. that's why i keep toms and roosters... [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-20-2013 08:51:33 209.86.226.19 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-19-2013 18:35:36   Do have roosters but they do nothing to snakes. No turkeys do have a goose but she does nothing either and a Peacock also does not go after snakes. Now mice on the other hand if sen by a chicken became food [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-21-2013 07:02:56 173.107.127.188 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-20-2013 08:51:33   maybee it's because in fl there are so many snakes that out roosters .. or mine any go after them. i know some chicken farmers cull out all but 12 roosters.. But i let 2-3 stay with each coop. They do their job well. while the hens are out eating ot scratching up feed for the bitties..the roosters stand around onthe edges... mean suckers.. :) [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-21-2013 09:59:17 209.86.226.59 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-21-2013 07:02:56   Well in Missouri this time of year no snakes of course but when we have them the roosters do nothing but run but then I do not want a rooster that will go after kids like some do [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-21-2013 11:01:37 184.246.227.37 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-21-2013 09:59:17   yep.. mine will kinda run at ya.. fearless suckers. a few will jump at the horses.. of course the horses win and stomp them flat.. :) [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-21-2013 11:03:14 209.86.226.59 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-21-2013 11:01:37   By the way do you have them 10 foot plus snakes in your area of FL??? [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-21-2013 11:58:11 184.246.227.37 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-21-2013 11:03:14   i've seen some long rattlers.. like 5-6' but have not seen any of the huge python or anaconda at large.. I guess inthe everglades they are having a problem with them.. but not near me. corn snakes and similar.. black snakes, moccasins and rattlers are about the norm. 5-6' is a good snake here.. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-21-2013 12:28:11 209.86.226.61 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-21-2013 11:58:11   Ya did not remember if your in south FL or more to the north. I have only been in FL twice once in boot camp in Orlando and then once on a shore stop with the JFK and that was at Jacksonville [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-21-2013 16:06:36 184.4.146.28 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-21-2013 12:28:11   i'm a lil south central of jacksonville.. north of orlando.. :) [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-21-2013 16:39:41 209.86.226.57 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-21-2013 16:06:36   North enough to hold the big snakes at bay just a little bit by the cooler weather then I guess [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-21-2013 16:43:46 184.4.146.28 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-21-2013 16:39:41   yep, and we aren't as wet as more areas south. go about 20m south of me.. or 15 m e / w of me and it gets wet again.. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-21-2013 16:57:39 209.86.226.19 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to soundguy, 01-21-2013 16:43:46   If you say so only know enough about FL to know I prefer it here LOL [Reply]  [No Email]
old 01-21-2013 19:44:35 209.86.226.54 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-21-2013 16:57:39   So you maybe close to Fort Laderdale ?? [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 01-21-2013 17:09:35 184.4.146.28 Report to Moderator	Re: OT electric fence in reply to old, 01-21-2013 16:57:39   southofme is lake county.. .. they call it that due tot he water. i'm sided by volousia.. it's more or less beachside county.. :) [Reply]  [No Email]