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[b:aff1e2afcf]front mount 8n, original 6 volt.[/b:aff1e2afcf]

started and ran fine, and after i shut it off to do something and then tried to restart all I got was a click. Didn't have a hydrometer to test the battery, so i thought it might be the solonoid and replaced that as i had one handy. still just a click and nothing, so likely not the solonoid.

cleaned all the connections including the battery to cable connections and pulled the starter out a bit and cleaned the mating surfaces and still just got a click.

tried to jump directly to the starter with a fully charged 12v 750 amp booster and still just got a single click, presumably from the starter. Negative lead connected to the starter post and positive lead to ground.

To my mind I've eliminated the solonoid, safety interlock switch, connections and battery as being the problem since i've cleaned, replaced or bypassed all of them. So does that pretty much mean I've got a problem in the starter itself? Or is there something else I can do to narrow down the problem?

Thanks in advance for the help - I always appreciate it.
 
Seems like it would be an electrical problem with
the starter. Probably the brushes or the copper
that they ride on.

You can take off the circular band that goes around
the starter to take a look at the brushes and
contacts. Maybe you can get in there with a screw
driver and get it to move a little. Then hit the
starter button to see if it will take off.
 
(quoted from post at 15:51:56 11/28/12) [b:c93e49dac1]front mount 8n, original 6 volt.[/b:c93e49dac1]

started and ran fine, and after i shut it off to do something and then tried to restart all I got was a click. Didn't have a hydrometer to test the battery, so i thought it might be the solonoid and replaced that as i had one handy. still just a click and nothing, so likely not the solonoid.

cleaned all the connections including the battery to cable connections and pulled the starter out a bit and cleaned the mating surfaces and still just got a click.

tried to jump directly to the starter with a fully charged 12v 750 amp booster and still just got a single click, presumably from the starter. Negative lead connected to the starter post and positive lead to ground.

To my mind I've eliminated the solonoid, safety interlock switch, connections and battery as being the problem since i've cleaned, replaced or bypassed all of them. So does that pretty much mean I've got a problem in the starter itself? Or is there something else I can do to narrow down the problem?

Thanks in advance for the help - I always appreciate it.
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hen brushes are about gone, you can sometimes jar them into contact by whacking the starter while holding start button down. If that works, get new brushes.
 
Thanks guys, I'll give those two suggestions a try this weekend, and if they don't work I guess I'll just have to take the starter off altogether and take a look at it.
 
If you connect your jump box directly to the starter, I believe you can bypass everything electrical on the rest of the tractor.

Connect the ground (black) jump box clamp to a clean starter bolt or a clean part of the case, then hit the hot starter post on the top of the starter with the red (hot) box clamp. MAKE SURE TO DISCONNECT THE TRACTOR HOT FROM THE STARTER. If it doesn't spin, you've figured out it's the starter.
 
Thanks for all the help. I think Soundguy got it right, the bendix was locked up for some reason. After trying everyones' ideas, in the end I just slapped on a new starter and it started right up, and now I'll deal with the bendix on the old one and get that squared away and I'll have a back up for future troubles.

My tractor is 4 hours away from home, with no handy place to get parts on a weekend, so I keep a pretty extensive set of spares of almost everything around so when something craps out it doesn't take me that long to get going again. Didn't have a spare starter, but now I do! :D
 
(quoted from post at 12:39:55 12/03/12) Thanks for all the help. I think Soundguy got it right, the bendix was locked up for some reason. After trying everyones' ideas, in the end I just slapped on a new starter and it started right up, and now I'll deal with the bendix on the old one and get that squared away and I'll have a back up for future troubles.

My tractor is 4 hours away from home, with no handy place to get parts on a weekend, so I keep a pretty extensive set of spares of almost everything around so when something craps out it doesn't take me that long to get going again. Didn't have a spare starter, but now I do! :D
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lad for your success, but that is a huge leap (& one small step for mankind) that replacing the entire starter assembly, some how pinpoints the bendix, :wink:
 

Well, I'm sorta going on SouNdguy's proffer that it might have been the bendix locked up, after eliminating most of the other obvious causes that were discussed. That also makes the most sense to me after looking at the rest of the starter and the brushes looking okay to me. But I'm pretty mechanically challenged so could very well be wrong. :oops:

In any event, taking a harder look at it over the winter will be on the project list, and then putting it back on the tractor to be sure I got the problem solved. But for now the tractor's back up and I'm working, so I'm a happy guy, and thanks again for the usual timely help!
 
(quoted from post at 13:32:10 12/03/12)
Well, I'm sorta going on SouNdguy's proffer that it might have been the bendix locked up, after eliminating most of the other obvious causes that were discussed. That also makes the most sense to me after looking at the rest of the starter and the brushes looking okay to me. But I'm pretty mechanically challenged so could very well be wrong. :oops:

In any event, taking a harder look at it over the winter will be on the project list, and then putting it back on the tractor to be sure I got the problem solved. But for now the tractor's back up and I'm working, so I'm a happy guy, and thanks again for the usual timely help!
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" But for now the tractor's back up and I'm working, so I'm a happy guy,..."

That's the part that counts!
 
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