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| GB in MT.
11-28-2012 12:03:26
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Just opened this up....got it in the mail to overhaul this A.M.!!!! :shock:
Half full of water...frozen main fuel adj needle...gasket non-existing, half of the float fell out when opened.
Owner says he has a couple more for me to do!?? I DID tell him to send me the rustiest carb, and that I would try to fit it into the schedual!!!
Think this one is gonna give me a little trouble! It's in the soak can, and I'm NOT gonna even try it for about 3-5 days soak!!!
Then we'll see what happens.
I'll keep ya up-dated as time goes on!!!!!
Gary :lol: :shock: :roll: :lol:
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| heybusdriver
12-01-2012 18:42:03
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| How did you get that out of my garage without me
seeing you?Stan
9N 222933
2N with 8N motor 8N345567
8N 146710
8N 179555
8N 197904
8N 199000
8N 254079
8N 362039
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| GB in MT.
12-01-2012 19:32:36
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to heybusdriver, 12-01-2012 18:42:03
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Stan;
I think yer dog was asleep!!!!! That was before I gave him the rump roast to chew on!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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| Dave in Wyoming
11-29-2012 12:14:56
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| GB, If anyone can save that carb, I feel you can!! You did a GREAT job on my carb!!! Thanks again!!
Dave
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| GB in MT.
11-29-2012 12:50:55
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to Dave in Wyoming, 11-29-2012 12:14:56
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Dave;
I appreciate your confidence, in my work!!!!
Thank you! 8)
Gary :)
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| Lisa K
11-29-2012 08:47:01
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| The one we took off the 51 we are rebuilding was about as rusty, we eventually ended up using the works toilet bowl cleaner, and a little brush, took the rust completely!
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| W_B
11-29-2012 06:26:09
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Wow, Gary, what a mess. You sure like a challenge!
Been meaning to ask, how do you "finish" the outside? Just paint? Clear coat?
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| GB in MT.
11-29-2012 06:53:52
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to W_B, 11-29-2012 06:26:09
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Rattle can from ACE/hardware store. After All the passages are cleaned, I put two light coats of 'Wrought Iron', Flat black paint on the outside. Holds up nice, and is resistant to oil, gas, and rust.
I also let the carb set overnight, under a light bulb on the desk, to 'set' the paint.
NO complaints yet, after about 5 yrs of doing it this way, with not ONE return on any overhauls.
AND.....NO.....Sandblasting will not stop any carb overhaul, from working properly, if the overhaul is done right and the passages are cleaned completely out.
Sandblasting is a NO-NO?????? ..........That is an 'OLD-WIVES' type tale.
Just got to know how to do it RIGHT!!!!
TSX241B by GB in MT.....:
Gary :)
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| Gaspump
11-29-2012 10:56:25
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-29-2012 06:53:52
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| Agree, an old-wives is a good assessment. I have bead blasted old M/S carbs as well as others for decades with no problems resulting from doing so. One word of caution when so doing is to never blast the 1/4 X 40 threads for the main needle or the needle might quickly pop out upon starting the engine!
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| MisterT
11-29-2012 09:04:37
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-29-2012 06:53:52
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| The only issues I've experienced with sandblasting is when the tiny little particles of sand get lodged in the orifices of the jets, and that really is not an issue either because those jets SHOULD have been removed before going to the blast cabinet.
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| JMOR
11-29-2012 09:09:21
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to MisterT, 11-29-2012 09:04:37
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| Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeThere are smaller drilled passages in those M/S carbs than the jets! And impossible to see, as opposed to the jets, which you can see. You can & should probe all of them. I do, Gary does, etc.
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| soundguy
11-29-2012 05:33:43
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| i think i might have tried an electrolysis bath!
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| Tim PloughNman Daley
11-29-2012 04:41:41
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Hey Guys-
The best method to get all that crud dissolved is to let everything soak in white vinegar, completely submerged, for at least two weeks. Check on level every few days as it may evaporate. The majoroty of rust and dirt will dissolve but you will still need to go thru with a brass brush or old toothbrush. Rinse good in mineral spirits bath or let soak for a few days in carb cleaner and then proceed to go through teh fine passages. Don't drill out any orrifices or you muck up the whole thing. Use compressed air to blow off frequently. Sandblsting is a no-no or at laest a last resort -you can easily get a grain of sand wedged in a passage -fine hole is only 1mm in diameter. I have done basket cases and the carbs are back in service today...
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| mbramble
11-28-2012 18:09:33
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| GB,
Do you recommend a particular carb kit and supplier?? I'd like to try my hand at rebuilding the one from my 8N parts tractor.
Thanks,
Mike
This post was edited by mbramble at 18:25:08 11/28/12.
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| Royse
11-28-2012 18:06:33
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Gary, if you run short of winter projects, I took this one off a Farmall tonight.
I haven't opened it up yet, but it doesn't look promising! :lol:
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| GB in MT.
11-28-2012 18:41:31
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to Royse, 11-28-2012 18:06:33
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UGH.....That's NOT lookin good. Looks like Dried antifreeze, in the throttle plate area. (Head gasket leak???? and onto the valves, manifold, and very poss. on down into the oil pan!!!!?????)
Keep me posted on THAT one!!!
I have one that looked similar, but NOT that bad.......Blown head gasket on an "N" series!!!!, and let set for about two weeks.!!! :shock: ..........silica-sand blast...only way to go with that!!!!
Gary :roll:
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| 01BIRDDOG
11-28-2012 17:43:59
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Beautiful work and glad to see someone else with O.C.D. I built several Stearman aircraft and remember on the cowling that EVERY screw head had to be lined up perfect and every rib stitch just like the one before it. Laying out tools was done in the same manner-----wish i could throw them in a bucket and go for it. It really is not fun , honest.
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| Jerry/MT
11-28-2012 17:43:28
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Gonna" take a few days just to clean up the operating room table that you work on!
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| Walston
11-28-2012 16:43:06
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| It couldn't be in better hands!
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| ASEguy
11-28-2012 15:23:57
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Like a challange do ya Gary? Geez. That takes the cake as the worst one I've seen. I'm sure it'll be a jewel soon though. I do love the look of your reman carbs.
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| GB in MT.
11-28-2012 15:47:07
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to ASEguy, 11-28-2012 15:23:57
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This is the one that really gave me fits!!! ....:
Scraped, poked, and Dremal brushed,..then blasted it inside and out, took about 5 days....:
Taken the day I started putting it back together.....:
Last I heard...it was still on the owners "N"....still running!!! That was sometime around 11/2 yr. ago!!!
Never have tried electrolisis bath. Scared some kid or animal would fall in it!!! Got no place to set it up indoors, under lock and key!!!!
I'll stay with what I know works good!!! :wink:
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| R Geiger
11-28-2012 15:01:19
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to TheOldHokie, 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Gary, have you ever tried the electrolysis rust removal system on carbs?
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| R Geiger
11-28-2012 14:53:28
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to JCinKY, 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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I wonder how many here was raised with an outhouse? WE never got an indoor one till I was 10. It was a real pain on a cold winter night. Grandmother had a chamber pot
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| tractor300
11-28-2012 17:31:47
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to R Geiger, 11-28-2012 14:53:28
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| Reminds me of the guy when I was a kid. He said he didn't know what was coming of this world. We use to eat in the house and go out to the pot, now we use the inside pot and eat outside.
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| Bob Harvey
11-28-2012 17:13:41
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to R Geiger, 11-28-2012 14:53:28
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| We each had our own styrofoam 'seat' back when I had my farm - lot better than your axx stuck to the wooden one!
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| rustyfarmall
11-28-2012 14:15:40
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| Gary, I have ressurected a few Farmall carbs that were just as bad. Could not have done it without my homemade cabinet sand blaster.
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| mbramble
11-28-2012 12:35:04
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 12:03:26
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| That is ugly!! ;)
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| JMOR
11-28-2012 13:04:06
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to mbramble, 11-28-2012 12:35:04
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| Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeProbably a sur-charge on that one for shop clean-up! :lol:
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| GB in MT.
11-28-2012 13:13:25
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to JMOR, 11-28-2012 13:04:06
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NAW....No sur-tax, BUT I did have to wash the crud and rust out of that shop towel, before my wife will let me put it in the washmachine!!! Wasn't a dang thing wrong with that shoptowel,....Not sure why she went off on me about the clothes washer????? :lol:
Gary :)
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| JMOR
11-28-2012 13:40:51
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to GB in MT., 11-28-2012 13:13:25
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| Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeYour old enough to remember that you had to rinse those diapers in the toilet before going to washing machine with them!
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| soundguy
11-29-2012 05:34:58
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to JMOR, 11-28-2012 13:40:51
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| | i wore cloth diapers as a lil'one don't see that type of stuff anymore. all pampers and huggies now...
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| TheOldHokie
11-28-2012 14:14:31
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to JMOR, 11-28-2012 13:40:51
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JMOR said: (quoted from post at 17:40:51 11/28/12)
GB in MT. said: (quoted from post at 17:13:25 11/28/12)
JMOR said: (quoted from post at 15:04:06 11/28/12)
| mbramble said: (quoted from post at 16:35:04 11/28/12) That is ugly!! ;) |
Probably a sur-charge on that one for shop clean-up! :lol: |
NAW....No sur-tax, BUT I did have to wash the crud and rust out of that shop towel, before my wife will let me put it in the washmachine!!! Wasn't a dang thing wrong with that shoptowel,....Not sure why she went off on me about the clothes washer????? :lol:
Gary :) |
Your old enough to remember that you had to rinse those diapers in the toilet before going to washing machine with them! |
You had a toilet???
TOH
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| Bob Harvey
11-28-2012 14:52:01
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to TheOldHokie, 11-28-2012 14:14:31
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| A what ??
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| Jimmyjack
11-28-2012 14:36:09
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Re: TSX241B..Never know what you'll find, in 'em' in reply to TheOldHokie, 11-28-2012 14:14:31
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| I love it, LOL.
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