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Installing ballasted tires

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Paul in Edmonton

11-19-2012 20:59:03




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Silly question, I'm sure...

So I just did a brake replacement. No questions or problems there. But now I have to remount the tires.

I didn't know if they were ballasted when I took them off, but they clearly are. (Probably only 1/4 full or so.) I had no problem getting them off without help. But now I have to get them back on...

I'm sure there's a technique to this--can anyone provide suggestions?

Thanks,

-Paul

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Paul in Edmonton

11-21-2012 07:27:18




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to tumleweed, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
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No worries, Royse! Since bringing the tractor to the city a few weeks ago, I've bought:
battery load tester
hydrometer
brake spring tool
set of impact sockets 1-1/16" socket 3/4" drive breaker bar
6 ton axle stands 3 ton floor jack (actually, I bought that when I needed to put winter tires on my truck--but I would have had to buy it for the tractor anyway--my old floor jack is just too darned small)

And that's just tools--not counting parts for the tractor or the cost of renting a trailer to get the tractor to/from the cabin...

The crane will come, I'm sure. Just not this week. I'm a firm believer in having the right tool for the job at hand.

-Paul

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Royse

11-20-2012 21:23:49




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Lisa K, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
Dang! I didn't mean to keep you from getting new tools! :lol:
Glad you got it done.



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Paul in Edmonton

11-20-2012 20:34:16




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
Well, Royse's tip worked great. A little finesse worked a lot better than the brute force I was trying before I posted yesterday. Lining up the hub with the wheel is a lot easier than trying to line up the wheel with the hub!

No need to buy a crane. Yet...

Thanks!

-Paul



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Paul in Edmonton

11-20-2012 15:41:45




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
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Thanks for the tip, Royse. I hadn't thought of that. The tractor is on axle stands right now, with the jack still there (with minimum force on it to keep it properly engaged). I'm sure that's not good enough to keep it up if a swinging tire hits it... If I get the crane, I'll get cribbing, too.
I should be able to use your method, though. Especially if I get a helper.

-Paul

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Royse

11-20-2012 15:35:28




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Fuddy Duddy, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
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If you use a shop crane, make sure you have proper cribbing under the tractor,

as it looks like Larry does in his photo, and be careful not to let it swing.

That much weight can knock a tractor off a jack pretty fast.

I don't have any trouble doing the smaller Ford tractors by hand, but I could
see using a crane/loader/forklift on larger ones.

I used my cherry picker (similar to Larry's) to put the duals on my Case 930.

Good luck and let us know how it works out! :)

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Paul in Edmonton

11-20-2012 13:21:04




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
Larry,

I had considered something like that before I posted. If I can't get Royse's method to work for me, I'll be off to Princess Auto (Canada's version of Harbor Freight) to pick one up.

-Paul



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Larry in WNY

11-20-2012 09:27:30




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  

Since I got this lift, I wouldn't change another tire without it. Safe, one man job and easy on the back. It works with other color tractors too.

Larry



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heybusdriver

11-20-2012 16:31:34




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Larry in WNY, 11-20-2012 09:27:30  
I got one too, but I didn't like the long legs, I made mine 3 point hitch .I've used mine for everything too ,

Stan
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2N with 8N motor 8N345567
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8N 179555
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8N 362039



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Larry in WNY

11-21-2012 09:27:51




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to heybusdriver, 11-20-2012 16:31:34  

I added 3 point connections on a 1 ton version and used it to pull shrubs. It only worked on the small ones. Put the legs back on and good for inside work too. The vertical straps bent so it needs to be reinforced. The 2 ton model is a better choice, but I went with 1 ton since the 2N can't lift more than that. Good for lifting heavy parts from the truck if you don't have a loader tractor to use. Larry

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Bob Harvey

11-20-2012 14:31:27




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Larry in WNY, 11-20-2012 09:27:30  
Yep, best tool I've bought in a loong time. Used it for the same as the photo and the rad and, and, and.



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HCooke

11-20-2012 08:55:25




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
I use the technique Royse describes. Above all be safe. To me that means having plenty of room to move away if things shift. Use a bottle jack to adjust the height of the tractor with the tire and wheel in place. A second person helps but I do it by myself.



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soundguy

11-20-2012 05:53:37




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
use long levers ( shovel? ) and a piece of plywood and dish soap. keep em standing straight up and scootch them right up to the hub.. get 1 nut on and you are golden..

use a bottle jack onthe tractor so you can preciseliy line it up[.. but back it up with a jack stand within 1/2" of the bottle jack lift..

if anything shifts suddenly.. don't even think.. just jump back..



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01BIRDDOG

11-20-2012 05:41:00




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
Best to call a friend-------or two. When they fall over you wont be able to pick it back up by yourself if it loaded.



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heybusdriver

11-19-2012 22:38:05




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Paul in Edmonton, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
Paul , I've taken off probably most of my tractors , getting them off isn't bad if they are not rusted onto the hub, I know your not asking that question , to put them back on I roll them up close leaning them against the hubs, then use a lever ( maybe a fence post or anything solid ) put a block or something under the lever and lift until close enough to maneuver the stud in the hole, start nut on stud , move the tire until the rest fit. Good luck.

Stan
9N 222933
2N with 8N motor 8N345567
8N 146710
8N 179555
8N 197904
8N 199000
8N 254079
8N 362039

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Royse

11-19-2012 21:08:25




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to TheOldHokie, 11-19-2012 20:59:03  
If you took the tires off with the centers in them, just roll them up close,

turn the hub so the studs line up and raise/lower the jack until it will slide on.

Start a nut or two, jack it back up a tad, install and tighten all the lug nuts.

Easy to do if you have a helper that can run the jack.



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NOXJohn

11-20-2012 04:00:13




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 Re: Installing ballasted tires in reply to Royse, 11-19-2012 21:08:25  
I do it the way Royse posted. Easy on the back. Just take it slow and if the tire starts to fall when rolling let it go. A portable engine lift is good for lifting a tire back up once it has fallen.



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