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Topic: Re: Which end up? Power steering ??
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Royse

09-25-2012 20:18:25
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Here's the mock up, not tested yet.

Edit: original post - here



This post was edited by Royse at 20:36:07 09/25/12.




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Royse

09-26-2012 19:09:36
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to WaltMo, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
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Thank you both for your interest an help!

It is a control valve that drives one DA cylinder.

One pressure line, one return line, two directional lines to the cylinder.

I guess my question stemmed from wondering if gravity would empty the valve

if the return was on the bottom versus on the top, and what would happen if it did.

Hopefully I'll get it finished up this weekend so I can let you know how it works.

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JMOR

09-26-2012 18:08:04
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Notjustair, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeDon't think it is a 'torque amplifier' like the Charlynn on Farmalls, but rather just a control for the double acting cylinder attached to steering links/rods. On those Farmalls, there is no other cylinder, just the single device inserted inline with the steering wheel shaft.



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JMOR

09-26-2012 18:07:33
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Hobo,NC, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeDon't think it is a 'torque amplifier' like the Charlynn on Farmalls, but rather just a control for the double acting cylinder attached to steering links/rods. On those Farmalls, there is no other cylinder, just the single device inserted inline with the steering wheel shaft.



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TheOldHokie

09-26-2012 17:59:05
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to 1951 8N, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
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Possibly because it might be a torque amplifier and doesn't drive a cylinder. After counting hoses I discounted that idea :?

TOH



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Royse

09-26-2012 09:24:43
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to ken and dogs, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
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Hmmm, clear as mud. Sorry about the confusion. :oops:

Yes that is correct.

Specifically I was wondering about the return line.

Mechanically I wouldn't think it would matter, but would it make any

difference if the return line is on top or bottom?



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JMOR

09-26-2012 09:06:50
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to CharnerL, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeCommunications is sure difficult sometimes......all along I thought you were trying to figure out the hose position/connections, but now I think you were concerned about which end (mechanically) does the steering wheel connect to? Is that right? OK, so does it make a difference which end steering wheel connects to & if so, why? Realizing hoses could be swapped.

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Royse

09-26-2012 08:36:33
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to soundguy, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
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I think you're right Joe, although I haven't been able to find a name on it.

This one is also going on an NAA with a single cylinder just as you say.



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Royse

09-26-2012 08:34:20
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Royse, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
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Mapping them wasn't really an issue because it was mostly still assembled when I got it.

The top hose was connected to the high pressure side of the pump and

has a unique fitting that wouldn't connect anywhere else.

The lower hose has a low pressure barb fitting to go back to the resevoir.

The two side hoses were already connected to the cylinder that helps you

move the draglink. The fittings will only fit there, although they could be reversed.

I did end up hooking up my air hose to it so I could tell which of those two hoses were

pressurized when turning left or right.

I have left the cylinder loose from the draglink so I can find the "neutral" position

on the cylinder movement and then tighten it in place.

It is a first time project for me, so recommendations are welcome.

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Royse

09-26-2012 08:15:57
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Royse, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
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Excellent idea! I might have to add a nipple to the top one to space it out a little over the lower one, but it would look much cleaner and take some strain off the hoses.

Thanks!



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old-9

09-26-2012 07:51:29
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Royse, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
That looks like a "Char-Lynn" power steering unit. They were used on John Deer, IH, and others. I have a friend that has one on an NAA. Uses only one cylinder, but works very well. joe



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JMOR

09-26-2012 06:58:48
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Bob Harvey, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeJust curious, but how did you ultimately 'map' the ports?



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TheOldHokie

09-26-2012 06:53:47
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
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Might I suggest some 90* port adapters to turn the hose runs straight down and to the sides.

TOH



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Kurt-NEPA

09-26-2012 04:40:12
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 Re: Which end up? Power steering ?? in reply to Royse, 09-25-2012 20:18:25  
Keep us posted Royse, I've never seen this aftermarket system before. I'd like to see how this works out.

Looks to me like this a single cylinder system. Leave the cylinder disconnected when you fire it up. That way you can see if you have going the right way.

Also, to bleed the air out, jack up the front end and move the steering wheel full and right and then full left a few times. That will get all the air out. At least that's the way the stock system works.

Good Luck!

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