Limiting 2N 3pt lift height

Can I chain my lift arms to the rear axle trumpets to limit the lift height on my 2N?

I finally managed to bend the drive shaft on my rotary mower by lifting too high.

I've never tried chaining them down for a mower, but it was done for other reasons.
Have you looked into getting Zane's Thang?
It gives you position control so the 3 pt stays in place where ever you put the
touch control lever.
Easy exterior bolt on device, done in 15 minutes.

Zane Thang

The price is $95.00 including shipping

Price outside the USA is $112.50 including shipping

August 28, 1999 By Zane Sherman
2824 Renfroe Road
Talladega Al. 35160 I DO ACCEPT PAYPAL

Position control for the hydraulic lift on the 9N/2N Ford tractor and the TO, TE, TEA Etc, Ferguson tractors.
The 9N/2N came with constant draft hydraulics and at the time this was the state of the art in tractor hydraulics. This feature however did not incorporate position or height control of the implements.

My device the ZANE THANG gives the Ferguson system this feature without any change to the original equipment on the tractor.
I noticed that you have a tractor with the Ferguson lift system “Ferguson system” which does not incorporate the option of POSITION CONTROL. I have invented an add on device that will give position control with no modification of the original lift or any component of the tractor and thought that you might be interested in seeing the particulars. It is mounted on the exterior of the tractor and does not require going inside the lift at all.


Ask some of the guys on the N board on Yesterday’s tractors or look back to the end of August or the middle of Sept. About the “ZANE THANG” Position control for the 9N 2N and TO Ferguson. All these tractors have what is commonly known as the Ferguson system.

INSTALLATION OF THE POSITION CONTROL

The ZANE THANG device comes with assembly instructions and pictures strictly for the purpose of instruction for installation and are not to be reproduced or published. All printed material furnished is copyrighted. I do not furnish pictures of the device except for instructional purposes. Everyone has been gracious enough to honor my wishes as of today. That should tell you something about people who own Ford tractors! :O)

Nothing has to be altered to install the attachment to allow you to have position control on the 9N 2N or TO 20 etc. It bolts onto the outside onto the existing components. It takes only minutes to install with a few common hand tools. It will hold a boom pole, bush hog or any other implement in the position where you put it and will not drift either up or down until you move the control handle just as you normally would if it were an 8N with Henry’s position control.

The original control handle is used to operate the lift from the seat just as it is from the factory. The only difference being that now you will be able to control the height or position of the implement positively.

The draft control will still be effective with the attachment installed. Just set the stop block supplied and it will return to the set depth you are wanting to plow.
I have one on my TO 20 and I just get excited every time I go out to use the tractor now. I have had this old girl for 34 years and always had to have chains and bars etc. to use my hay rake or draw bar when pulling the trailer etc. Now all I have to do is move the original touch control handle up or down just as you would on an 8N and put the lift where you want it and it stays there.
This option is especially nice when using a bush hog, a snow plow, a box blade, an angle blade, post hole digger or any other implement that requires infinite height control of the lift arms.

You take your hand off the control handle and the lift stays where it is put as long as the engine and pump is running. There is no interference with the draft control. It will work just the same as before.
However the quadrant stop for the draft control depth adjustment that is attached to the slot in the quadrant must be removed as it is no longer needed for draft as it will work with the setting of the device.

SHIPPING

I am now shipping my position control attachment designed for the 9/2N Ford and the “T” Ferguson tractors etc.

The price is $95.00 in the USA. This includes the shipping. Shipping outside the US is extra and the price is $ 112.50 US dollars. And also includes the shipping costs.

Just send a money order or a personal check and let me know when and where you want it shipped. I will wait till the check clears the bank before I ship. I will ship the money order the next working day.
If you are not satisfied just ship it back to me in good working order and I will refund your money less the shipping charges.

The device is completely guaranteed to do what I say it will and to your satisfaction or I will return your money less the shipping charges plus five dollars for handling if returned with in 30 days of the sale when I receive the unit back in good condition.

Over 600 units sold all over the English speaking world with lots of positive feedback.
See my other devices for the N Ford tractors at
http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=220626&ck=

My address is

Zane Sherman
2824 Renfroe Road
Talladega Al. 35160.
Phone 256 268 2327

Email [email protected]

If you should decide to use Paypal I can ship the next working day. Just email me and I'll send you a Paypal request for money. My email address is – [email protected]


My email address is – [email protected]

A money order will be fine. Just takes longer to get to me.

Thanks for posting that old site information. However the price is wrong. That was the price 10 years ago but now it is $95.

Zane

I have heard of them and I will eventually get one... whenever the wife lets me spend more on "junk I don't need" ... ahhh but if not for her I'd be broke.

I'm thinking the chains will act more as safety chains to limit the height for the odd time I forget to disconnect the drive shaft or the odd panic situation i seem to get into mowing these rocky, rough fields.

Will I cause any damage to the Hyd. system by chaining this way?

Sorry about the outdated link Zane, I corrected it to point to your website.

After doing some more research over the weekend it seems like your device Is by far the simplest way to add position control to a 2/9 N.
So mister Zane, I'll bite I'm interested. I'm sending you an email now.

I'm still wondering if I am safe to use a chain to limit my max height. Anybody know?

(quoted from post at 05:40:24 09/25/12) After doing some more research over the weekend it seems like your device Is by far the simplest way to add position control to a 2/9 N.
So mister Zane, I'll bite I'm interested. I'm sending you an email now.

I'm still wondering if I am safe to use a chain to limit my max height. Anybody know?

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F you use a chain to limit max height & system is still commanding 'lift' against the chains, then the pump will essentially be trying to lift more than it can, working very hard & most likely blowing past the overpressure relief valve. To do this on a long term basis just can't be 'good'. I expected Zane to answer you on this or I would have spoken up sooner.

Thats Kinda what I was thinking too. Its gotta be hard on a system pushing it to the relief valve constantly.
I may still use a set of chains in combo with Zane's device a a sort of safety.
but I'll have to be carefull not to lift any farther than necessary.

Some people go a simpler route and just cut the drive shaft. Something to think about though. The square hole in the drive shaft that slips over the square mower shaft doesn't run the full distance of the drive shaft. It's just a piece about 6 or 7 inches long with that square hole and welded onto the drive shaft. I'd me a little leery of shortening that square drive end.

You might find a shop that can actually take a piece out of the middle of the shaft and weld it back together. I know if it were my tractor, I'd rather have someone that actually knew what they were doing and had the equipment to do it. At the very least, you would certainly want an experienced welder.

One quick fix would be to clamp a stop to your quadrant so your lift lever can only go up to a certain height.

(quoted from post at 09:01:11 09/25/12) Some people go a simpler route and just cut the drive shaft. Something to think about though.

One quick fix would be to clamp a stop to your quadrant so your lift lever can only go up to a certain height.

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It's not a question of length, but angle. The PTO is very low on the N, and when the mower is raised, the drive shaft strikes the front top of the mower deck. Limiting the movement of the lever won't do any good without position control. He should get a Zane Thang AND a stop for the lever. Without the Thang, he only has full up or full down- no stopping in between.

At least that's how my setup (2N with Farm Star brush cutter) is. I put a Zane Thang on and look back when I lift to make sure the shaft doesn't hit.

(quoted from post at 12:29:35 09/25/12)

(quoted from post at 09:01:11 09/25/12) Some people go a simpler route and just cut the drive shaft. Something to think about though.

One quick fix would be to clamp a stop to your quadrant so your lift lever can only go up to a certain height.

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It's not a question of length, but angle. The PTO is very low on the N, and when the mower is raised, the drive shaft strikes the front top of the mower deck. Limiting the movement of the lever won't do any good without position control. He should get a Zane Thang AND a stop for the lever. Without the Thang, he only has full up or full down- no stopping in between.

At least that's how my setup (2N with Farm Star brush cutter) is. I put a Zane Thang on and look back when I lift to make sure the shaft doesn't hit.

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esmith66..........hit nail on head!

The shaft still has lots of room to collapse 4-5" but at full lift it hits the front of the deck. I'll try and get a pic today if I can

I tried clampin it off... that's how I learned how the 2N's 3pt operates.

UP-(until you move it back to neutral)-NEUTRAL- DOWN (until you move back to neutral)

Seems to be all or nothin.

Looks like Zanes Thang should sort that out.

Hmmm...I never really noticed how close to the deck mine comes at full lift. It's a Woods M5. I'll have to check it out next time I have the mower on the tractor.

It must not be any problem on mine or I'm sure I would have noticed it.