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| Rick A McWhirt
09-06-2012 15:39:51
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I picked up this 2 bottom plow and Im going to attempt to put it on a Kubota. It was used on an 8n. My question is why is one of the 3 point ears higher than the other one? I also need a tail wheel as it is broke or do I even need one? Thanks Rick |
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| jackinok
09-07-2012 06:29:40
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-06-2012 15:39:51
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| pins are higher and lower,to do two things. one to help in leveling the plow because you have a limited anjustment on the lift link. and two its a way to adjust the width of cut and basicaly relieve the side torque created by steering the plow.if you have your plow set right no tail wheel is needed,if you dont you break tail wheel off like on yours. MAKE sure if you intend to use this plow on both tractors to write down and prefferably mark the plow itself for each tractors setup.they most likely wont be the same,and it will save you a lot of time figuring out adjustments in the field. most critically,length of toplink,amount of drawbar sticking out past left hand beam,and/or number setting if your plows drawbar rotates to set width of cut. |
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| Pooh Bear
09-06-2012 18:17:03
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-06-2012 15:39:51
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| My 2-16 plow doesn't have a wheel on it and it pulls just fine behind my 8N. I take the second bottom plow off of it and use it as a 1-16.
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| TheOldHokie
09-06-2012 18:16:40
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to dan shu, 09-06-2012 15:39:51
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While small Kubotas are not great plowing machines you should be fine. Draft control is a feature that senses the pull on the plow and automagically raises/lowers it to keep the pull (draft) on the tractor constant. Not usually available on the smaller Kubota tractors. I've plowed lots of row with just position control and 17HP x 4WD pulling a 14" one bottom. If your two bottom turns out to be too much just remove one.
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| Royse
09-06-2012 17:58:31
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to heybusdriver, 09-06-2012 15:39:51
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| I don't think the HP will be as big a deal for you as weight and traction.
What model Kubby do you have? |
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| Rick McWhirt
09-07-2012 10:57:50
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Royse, 09-06-2012 17:58:31
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| The tractor is a L245. Dont even know the yr. I traded a John Deere 60 series for the kubota,woods mower and a 60 inch tiller. The tractor seems to be in really good shape. |
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| Rick McWhirt
09-06-2012 21:28:18
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Royse, 09-06-2012 17:58:31
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| Will get a picture and have wife post for me. I have looked for a plate telling what the plow is and have not really looked too hard. Picking for Farmers Market is Tomorrow so the picture will be in the eve. Thanks for all the answers. Rick |
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| Scott Pa
09-06-2012 17:56:18
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-06-2012 15:39:51
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| Can you tell what brand plow it is or send a picture so we can tell if the tailwheel part is available? |
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| TheOldHokie
09-06-2012 17:09:08
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to TheOldHokie, 09-06-2012 15:39:51
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Why do you think the wheels are not adjustable? Miy Kubby adjusts in/out just like an N. A bigger issue might well be no draft control. I've plowed my garden for years with a a one bottom and my Kubby - bit of an exercise to keep it drafting properly.
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| Rick McWhirt
09-06-2012 17:46:14
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to TheOldHokie, 09-06-2012 17:09:08
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| All I have now is a middle buster and dont like the space it leaves between rows. All looks plowed but its just covering up sod between the rows. I dont know what drafting is? Mine might not be big enough to pull it anyway. Only 25hp and we do about an acre of garden. |
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| Dean
09-06-2012 18:27:09
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick McWhirt, 09-06-2012 17:46:14
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| | Your problem will be traction rather than HP. A 25 Hp Kubota is much lighter than an 8N. I would look for a single 12" plow or convert a two bottom to a single. Dean |
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| Bruce (VA)
09-06-2012 16:05:17
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-06-2012 15:39:51
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| | It has one side lower than the other so that you do not need to level the plow after you turn the first furrow. I've always been told that the tail wheel was to keep the furrow wall from falling over. Some folks say it acts like a rudder. But, do let us know what it's like to use a turn plow on a tractor w/o adjustable wheels. Just because I've never seen it done doesn't mean it can't be done. |
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| Rick A McWhirt
09-06-2012 16:53:34
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Bruce (VA), 09-06-2012 16:05:17
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| I had not thought about adjustments. Although I can take the 3 point hitch bar loose and slide it one way or the other,5 inches one way and only about 2 the other way. This plow was given to me so I have to try. |
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| jackinok
09-07-2012 07:03:49
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-06-2012 16:53:34
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| IF!!! youve taken the drawbar loose and slid it i hope you had the foresight to mark a starting point! that one adjustment is critical to making the plow run straight it does far more than slide left or right. it actually steers the plow and sets width of cut.since we now know what type of adjustment you have at least,do this. try to put bar back as close as possible to where it was.hook up plow and go to your field.level plow sideways on level ground where both points are just touching. next shorten or lengthen top link until rear of plow shares are off the ground maybe 1 1/2 ".( starting settings)try the plow,and if it fails to dig in SHORTEN toplink slightly and re-level sideways if neccesary. if it sinks in what you feel is too far lengthen toplink.what your setting basically is the plows suction.leveling side ways makes both furrows the same depth. now once you get it at least in the ground,you can set it up for the least side draft and width of cut.this is what your sliding/rotating drawbar is for. if plow tries to turn front of tractor to the right,loosen clamps and move drawbar on plow slightly to right.this turns plow slightly where center of DRAFT on your plow is straight down center of PULL on tractor. if it tries to turn tractor the opposite way simply move drawbar the other way.once it set up for your tractor,lock it down tight and never move it again!!! if you have to use plow on another tractor,make absolutely certain you record these settings! what your doing basicaly is setting the hitch hieght, center of pull,center of draft,and hitch offset.and each tractor is different. you cannot simply take one plow and use it on different tractors without there being some difference.even if you take a plow off one 8n and put it on another you may have to tweak the adjustments some. |
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| jackinok
09-07-2012 07:42:01
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to jackinok, 09-07-2012 07:03:49
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| uh oh i forgot to mention that this setting is for starting furrows ONLY! once you have your first furrows plowed around your field,and drop your tire into first furrows,you will have to relevel plow sideways.this is where that drop on one side of your plows drawbar comes in play.it gives you more adjustment on your adjustable lift link,to roll plow over sideways.if you didnt have that lots of times you would run out of adjustment, and couldnt make both furrows the same depth. tailwheel on THESE type plows are to reduce draft of the fixed land slide only,that should be set up correctly for landslide suction.it doesnt set depth,hold furrow wall,etc etc. it simply helps to reduce the drag on plow because it rolls instead of slides.nearly all modern plows you can buy of this type have done away with them. |
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| jackinok
09-07-2012 07:35:39
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to jackinok, 09-07-2012 07:03:49
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| uh oh i forgot to mention that this setting is for starting furrows ONLY! once you have your first furrows plowed around your field,and drop your tire into first furrows,you will have to relevel plow sideways.this is where that drop on one side of your plows drawbar comes in play.it gives you more adjustment on your adjustable lift link,to roll plow over sideways.if you didnt have that lots of times you would run out of adjustment, and couldnt make both furrows the same depth. tailwheel on THESE type plows are to reduce draft of the fixed land slide only,that should be set up correctly for landslide suction.it doesnt set depth,hold furrow wall,etc etc. it simply helps to reduce the drag on plow because it rolls instead of slides.nearly all modern plows you can buy of this type have done away with them. |
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| Rick A McWhirt
09-07-2012 11:27:57
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to jackinok, 09-07-2012 07:35:39
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| I have came to the conclusion that my quick connect hitch will not work with this plow. I swap out implements so much it wont be quick enough for me to set this plow up and then have to change all the stuff back to put a grader blade,tiller or the potato plow back on. Darn I had big dreams. At least it was free. |
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| jackinok
09-07-2012 12:52:49
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-07-2012 11:27:57
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| you might find an adaptor somewhere, but as you say a quick hitch plow would be much simpler. |
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| modyinnh
09-07-2012 12:09:13
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-07-2012 11:27:57
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| Where are you located? Wanna sell it? |
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| Rick A McWhirt
09-07-2012 14:37:15
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to modyinnh, 09-07-2012 12:09:13
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| Indiana,close to Frankfort. I have not totally given up on it yet. |
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| modyinnh
09-07-2012 14:40:42
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Re: Plow off of an 8n in reply to Rick A McWhirt, 09-07-2012 14:37:15
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| Well, I'm in Vermont so a moot point I guess. Hope it works out for you |
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