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| DinWa
08-11-2012 19:49:04
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Did some brush hoggin today, finished, parked tractor to allow cooling before putting to bed. Went to start her up and all i got was the super slow cranking of the engine, battery is good. I opened up the hood door, and tried cranking again. Then i noticed a spark coming from the bottom side of where the solenoid bolts to the starter. Removed all nuts and washers, sanded all surfaces till shiny, replaced same, still sparking. BTW this is a franken "n" with a front mount dizzy. Thanks to all you out there in "n" land in advance. You guys are great!
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| soundguy
08-13-2012 07:52:45
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Re: starter spark in reply to DinWa, 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| sparks meand bad / loose connections. if the sparking part is internal tot he solenoid. either pry apart and fix.. or replace.
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| working dog wv
08-12-2012 03:23:12
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Re: starter spark in reply to DinWa, 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| My 52 8n did the same thing .There was bad connection between the starter and the block .I loosened the starter and sanded both surfaces. now its the easyiest starting thing on the place.
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| DinWa
08-12-2012 05:41:57
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Re: starter spark in reply to working dog wv, 08-12-2012 03:23:12
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| Working dog, I think I'm gonna try replacing the solenoid first, not too much money and an easy fix, if that don't work, then I'll try your suggestion. Thanks for your input though.
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| working dog wv
08-12-2012 03:22:37
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Re: starter spark in reply to DinWa, 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| My 52 8n did the same thing .There was bad connection between the starter and the block .I loosened the starter and sanded both surfaces. now its the easyiest starting thing on the place.
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| Royse
08-11-2012 20:30:15
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Re: starter spark in reply to Athrawn17, 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| I don't think your starter's bad, just the solenoid if its arcing like that.
You can jump the starter to make sure it spins if you want to be sure.
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| DinWa
08-11-2012 20:58:59
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Re: starter spark in reply to Royse, 08-11-2012 20:30:15
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| I guess I was reading solenoid and thinking starter, my bad! Solenoid sounds a whole lot better than starter, $ee what I mean?
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| Royse
08-11-2012 20:19:36
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Re: starter spark in reply to Jock(OR), 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| 6 volt ones are $10 from this site. Not too bad.
Poke here
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| DinWa
08-11-2012 20:24:48
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Re: starter spark in reply to Royse, 08-11-2012 20:19:36
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| For the starter or solenoid? As I understand it, it is the starter that is bad.
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| Royse
08-11-2012 20:12:06
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Re: starter spark in reply to NOXJohn, 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| Thanks DinWa
JMOR's post made me go back and re-read what you said.
Is it sparking from the mount to the starter or from one of the posts?
He is correct in that it shouldn't need the mount grounded, so there
should be no reason for it to spark at the mount.
Half inch socket wrench?
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| DinWa
08-11-2012 20:22:22
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Re: starter spark in reply to Royse, 08-11-2012 20:12:06
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| It is sparking from the starter to the bracket. Yeah, a half inch drive socket wrench,(it was handy).
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| JMOR
08-11-2012 19:59:05
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Re: starter spark in reply to DollarBill, 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeIf you are talking about a Ford 8N, then the solenoid case is isolated from everything......requires no case ground....works wired up hanging in free space. So if case is hot & makes a spark to chassis/engine iron, then it has internal short. No good. Replace.
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| DinWa
08-11-2012 20:16:03
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Re: starter spark in reply to JMOR, 08-11-2012 19:59:05
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| Yup it is an 8n. Guess I did forget that part. I was hoping you wouldn't say that! lol, anyway, thanks. Any idea what those are running these days?
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| Royse
08-11-2012 19:55:14
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Re: starter spark in reply to r.j.m.t., 08-11-2012 19:49:04
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| From your description I'm guessing your franken N has an early 8N starter set up because it has a front dizzy and a solenoid.
Sounds like you were on the right track.
If it sparks at the connection, its a bad connection.
Can you tighten the bolts/screws up any?
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| DinWa
08-11-2012 20:03:23
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Re: starter spark in reply to Royse, 08-11-2012 19:55:14
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| Hi Royse, I was just admiring your cats' retrieval! Not Bad! Anyway, yes I did tighten up all nuts as much as I felt safe using a 1/2 in socket wrench.
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