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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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Topic: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N?
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Nathan2

08-10-2012 08:47:07
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Will a 9N/8N/2N handle a rototiller? or is the ground speed to fast? I don"t own a Ford but trying to find a small tractor for food plots. Would any one of these work and if so which one would work the best. Thanks in Advance!

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Hobo,NC

08-10-2012 18:28:36
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to TheOldHokie, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
One tractor one plow in this link are pix of the plow I use the most... A n will pull it,,, All Purpose Plow...

http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=891769&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=field+cultivator&start=15



http://www.tractorshed.com/gallery/uptest/a68030.jpg

You can till it sow it and cover it up one tractor one plow...

This post was edited by Hobo,NC at 18:30:12 08/10/12.

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TheOldHokie

08-10-2012 15:57:11
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to HCooke, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
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Any 18-20 HP compact with a ground speed of 1 MPH or so @2500 engine RPM will work just dandy. My little 18 HP Kubby diesel is a prime example. Compared to an 8N it's a PITA with a plow on the back. Different machines - different jobs.

TOH

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soundguy

08-10-2012 15:57:33
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
i see summer is here.

the 'can i rototill with a N' questions are up.


no.. not really.. / maybee.


you live in sand or well tilled / worked soil? yeah.. a small tilelr might go.

otherwise at a minimum.. get a 5spd 8xx/9xx 48hp machine.. or better yet an 8spd or even 6spd twin stick from a 65+ unit.. or a 10spd sos job

you need slow ground speed... without killing engine / pto speed

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MRinMN

08-10-2012 15:37:52
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
Having tilled with a 5 foot tiller on an 8N, I would suggest looking for something with more power and live hydraulics. I have rich black soil with no rocks, the first time I tilled my garden I had to lower my tiller depth guides so the blades would only engage about 2 inches of soil, otherwise it would bog it down,you can play with your implement lever and raise it quickly to keep from killing, but it was a pain. After raising the tiller depth guide an inch at a time, I got it tilled, and every year after that it was easy, but had to run in first gear and almost full throttle. I got a 38 HP kubota this year, tills the garden effortlessly, although in an old overgrown field that hasn"t been worked in decades, low gear and high throttle it works the tiller at full depth, but I wouldn"t go any smaller with HP. Also, with a 48 inch tiller, you would leave rows of compacted soil from tire tracks, the ford is 60 inches wide, my Kubota is 58.

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ericlb

08-10-2012 14:01:46
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
as a rule no, the N series tractor was never intended to run a modern tiller, thats what plows discs and harrows do, the ground speed is too fast on the N and with no live pto if you have a problem you will really have a problem, that being said, there are a couple of people on here who have managed to make one work, im assuming there running in really loose sandy soil but unless you enjoy preparing your soil with the intended implements like most of us do, your better off just renting a modern tiller tractor for that purpose

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Tiller

08-10-2012 13:25:11
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
A live/ind. pto is also the best for a tiller.

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Bruce (VA)

08-10-2012 10:31:09
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
As UD & Dell said, the short answer is no. The longer answer is probably not. The explanation is that the tiller needs 540 RPM to operate. At 540 rpm PTO speed in first gear on an N ground speed is about 3.23 mph. Much to fast for a tiller. The exception would be if the N had a Howard auxiliary transmission to slow the ground speed while maintaining 540 rpm PTO speed. Another exception would be sandy, loose soil & putting the tractor in neutral & letting the tiller push the tractor. Bottom line.....unless you can actually test it on the soil you plan on tilling, I'd stick w/ the short answer.

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Ultradog MN

08-10-2012 09:14:54
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
Nathan2,
Dell is correct. Ns are not tiller tractors.
They are good at plowing and discing though.
Not till 1958 when Ford came out with the worlds first powershift tranny on a tractor did they make a tiller tractor. They were called Select O Speeds.
And not till 1965 when they came out with the 3 cylinder Fords with the 8 sp tranny did they make a gear stick tranny suitable for tilling.
A plow and a disc is all I use for gardens and deer plots.
I wish I could find a cultipacker though.

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8N'r--WI

08-10-2012 16:54:12
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Cultipacker at Auction Tomorrow..lots of pics.. in reply to Ultradog MN, 08-10-2012 09:14:54  
I looked at this last weekend.....it looked like these wheels just turn on a metal shaft and requires no lubrication and has no bearings???

Any ideas on value (I know it is an auction,but)?

That Farmall in the weeds was an old friend I hadn"t seen in about 45 years...it would be a real challenge to restore/refurbish.

Tim

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awhtx

08-11-2012 07:58:10
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Scott Atwater Outboard Motor in reply to 8N'r--WI, 08-10-2012 16:54:12  
Uncle Paul (my Dad's Uncle) had one of those 50 years ago. My Dad and his brothers gave Uncle Paul grief about his SA for all the time he owned it. He finally upgraded years later.

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Bruce(VA)

08-10-2012 12:00:49
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Ultradog MN, 08-10-2012 09:14:54  
" I wish I could find a cultipacker though."

I wish I could find one that I could afford!

Easily $500 around here.

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Ultradog MN

08-10-2012 12:35:04
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Bruce(VA), 08-10-2012 12:00:49  
Yes. Or more.

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Dell (WA)

08-10-2012 09:03:14
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 08:47:07  
Nathan2........not really, you are correct, the ground speed is too fast. Me? when my Troy-built is too small, I go rent a tractor mounted roto-tiller. Simple, eh? And NO, the common Sherman aux tranny is still too fast. ........Dell

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Nathan2

08-10-2012 14:18:58
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Dell (WA), 08-10-2012 09:03:14  
Well I appreciate all the input before I buy a N series tractor and find out it doesn't work. Anyone know of a smaller or compact tractor that would work good with a rototiller. Thinking of buying the King Kutter 48".
Thanks again!!

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Bruce (VA)

08-10-2012 14:37:52
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Nathan2, 08-10-2012 14:18:58  
If you plan on using a tiller for soil prep & cultivation, you will also need a tractor big enough to pull a sub-soiler. The more shanks the better.

After 2 - 3 years of using a tiller on a compact tractor w/o plowing or using a sub-soiler, you will have pretty solid 'hard-pan' about 4 - 6 inches down. That being the tilling depth.

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Nathan2

08-10-2012 19:56:54
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Re: rototiller work on 8N/2N/9N? in reply to Bruce (VA), 08-10-2012 14:37:52  
I have a 1954 Case SC, but the guys on the Case forum said it would work if I didn"t put the tiller in the ground :) gonna do some more research on the Ford 901B with the 0 speed transmission. I basically have sod that I want to break up and start food plots.

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