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TSWolf 08-05-2012 18:26:44 71.176.139.233 Report to Moderator	I got the front seals on the 9N replaced, but the upper rear seal is a problem. Part of the old seal is stuck on top of the crank, and the ends have already pulled out. Does anyone have any ideas for removing what is left of the seal without dropping the crankshaft? [Reply]   [No Email]
36 coupe 08-14-2012 04:59:49 66.186.169.176 Report to Moderator	Re: Rope Seals, Again... in reply to TSWolf, 08-05-2012 18:26:44   Take the timing gear cover off.Rope seals should be soaked in oil before using. [Reply]  [No Email]
Dave Wave 08-14-2012 09:37:25 67.165.128.33 Report to Moderator	Re: Rope Seals, Again... in reply to 36 coupe, 08-14-2012 04:59:49   Try a piece of SS stock from a set of old windshield wiper blades. Just perfect to dislodge the seal. You can find a post I wrote about it in the archives. Remember to drop the crank just a bit to give the seal to move, but not so much as to damage the front seal. -Dave [Reply]  [No Email]
ZANE 08-06-2012 12:56:59 98.83.97.129 Report to Moderator	Re: Rope Seals, Again... in reply to TSWolf, 08-05-2012 18:26:44   I have never done this on the N engine or the front seal but have done it on the TO Ferguson engines many times. You can take the timing cover off and replace it easy since the pan is off anyway. Unless you want to remove the crankshaft don’t even think about trying to remove the upper main bearing seal on the N engine. There is a better way to fix it if it really needs fixing. First the rear main bearing itself must be in good condition or trying to fix the rear seal is just a practice in futility. If the rear main bearing is OK you should first remove the hood tank and the front axle and radiator etc. This will give you ample room to drop the pan. This will save much wailing and knashing of teeth! Obtain an original rear main bearing seal kit for the Ferguson TO 20 engine. This consists of a bottom seal similar to the one used on the N engine and a big ball of cotton roping. Cotton Roping is what a big cotton thread looks like before it is twisted in the cotton mill. Using a soft welding rod of about 5/32” start packing the cotton roping into the upper seal. Don’t try to remove any of the original upper seal but pack all of the roping you can get into the upper seal slot. The old seal will be compacted and fill any void that is in the upper seal. Replace the lower half of the seal with an original N seal. Don’t worry about the different colors on the ends of the seal if it matters I haven’t been able to find out what it is in the last 40 years. I have done this repair many times in the past and never had a leak. The cotton roping is all that the new TO Ferguson tractors ever had from the factory. The engine in them is a Contenintal engine. Zane [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 08-06-2012 05:14:31 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: Rope Seals, Again... in reply to TSWolf, 08-05-2012 18:26:44   Get you a Sneaky pPete. I believe that they are sold on this site. [Reply]  [No Email]
TOM N MS 08-06-2012 03:42:26 98.95.36.190 Report to Moderator	Re: Rope Seals, Again... in reply to TSWolf, 08-05-2012 18:26:44   Probably gotta drop the crank. Might loosen all crank journal bolts and drop it down enough to do the trick without completely removing it. [Reply]  [No Email]