Front Mount Snow Plow

j_eich18 · Dec 31, 2011

I know that front mount snow plows have come up
several times on this forum, but one thing that I
couldn"t really determine is if all of these setups
attach to the rear axle or if they simply attach to
the front. If anyone has pictures of the frame
setup without being on the tractor or a schematic to
show that would be great. Also, how are the
hydraulics run. There must be several ways to get
hydraulics. I have a 9n. Thanks for sharing.

Kurt-NEPA · Dec 31, 2011

Here's a picture of an Arps frame. It attaches under the rear axle. Cables run from lift arms, around pulleys on the rear of the frame, over pulleys attached to the front axles and then down to the frame. Dearborn makes a similar frame.

picture of a front bracket

Ultradog MN · Dec 31, 2011

If you get one of the old Dearborn or Arps jobs they have a frame that goes back and attaches under the rear axles. Then they use a set of cables that go from the three point arms to the front axles to raise the plow. No external hydraulics needed.
They are very effective snow movers.
Mind you however, without fluid in your rear tires or wheel weights AND chains they are not very effective.
If you find one make sure you get ALL the brackets with it.

j_eich18 · Dec 31, 2011

Are the Dearborn and ARPS(?) common to come across? What do they usually run for cost? I like the idea of having hydraulics. Does the frame keep the front axle from pivoting?

TheOldHokie · Dec 31, 2011

(quoted from post at 10:55:33 12/31/11) Are the Dearborn and ARPS(?) common to come across? What do they usually run for cost? I like the idea of having hydraulics. Does the frame keep the front axle from pivoting?

The vast majority of ARPS/Dearborn plows attached to the rear axle and are mechanical lift using a cable and pulley system attached to the 3pt lift arms - no hydraulics. The plow frame simply hangs off the front axle on cables and the axle is free to pivot independent of the plow. The plow is raised/lowered by raising/lowering the 3pt arms which pull the cables attached to the front of the plow.

The Dearborn 19-80 universal frame attached to the bottom bolts on the transmission and had a single front mounted hydraulic lift cylinder which was powered off the tractor test port. It was raised/lowered using the quadrant control lever and required chaining down the rear lift arms when in use. When the control lever is moved to the top it sends oil out the test port to the cylinder causing it to extend and raise the plow. Fabricating a similar frame is pretty easy if you can weld.

TOH

Kurt-NEPA · Dec 31, 2011

Arps and Dearborn plow setups show up from time to time in snow country. They usually run about $400 to $800 depending on condition. I paid $450 for mine and it needed a lot of work. I would start watching Craig's List and Ebay. You might have to travel a bit to get one. And if you find one, act fast. They sell quickly. Make sure all the brackets are included. They are impossible find alone.

They do not interfere with the rotation of the front axle.

There are other types of hydraulic types of plows out there. I have a Sauder power angle on my 660 that works great. They are nice plows and many will fit the 9N, 2N, and 8N with some modification, but you have to chain down the lift arms for them to work. Then rig up some hydraulic lines. TOH is a good source for how to do this.

Ultradog MN · Dec 31, 2011

TOH, which model does this fit?
I'm thinking it's for a hundred series - maybe a Jube.
I assumed j_eich18 was looking for one for an N or did I miss something there?

Vance Summerhill · Dec 31, 2011

I have an extra Sauder front mount plow that i would be willing to part with if you are interested. Email me

TheOldHokie · Dec 31, 2011

(quoted from post at 11:57:44 12/31/11)
TOH, which model does this fit?
I'm thinking it's for a hundred series - maybe a Jube.
I assumed j_eich18 was looking for one for an N or did I miss something there?

Actually I am the one that missed something. Looking at the parts manual it says NAA and newer but I see no reason it couldn't be mounted on an 8N with a little tweaking. There may well be an issue with the length between the mounting points requiring new bolt holes at the rear drawbar attachment point but other than that the subframe is utterly generic. Obviously the OEM hydraulic control valves/manifolds are not going to fit an 8N but it would run fine off the test port just as I described. In fact that is exactly the way the Sauder plows and loaders work. I have an older 6-1/2 foot Myers plow that I intend to mount on my '51 8N using a subframe built just like the 19-80. It will be powered with an external pump and control valve.

TOH

j_eich18 · Dec 31, 2011

Wow! All great information. I do have the capability to weld and will probably mimic something shown. However, what does the Sauder plow look like?

TheOldHokie · Dec 31, 2011

(quoted from post at 12:44:42 12/31/11) Wow! All great information. I do have the capability to weld and will probably mimic something shown. However, what does the Sauder plow look like?

The Sauder plow (really a dozer) simply hangs on the front axle and is attached at the rear with a very clever quick attach socket bolted to the drawbar mounting holes. Mounting/dismounting is very easy but the front axle mounting leaves a lot to be desired. Picture below is just one of many Sauder dozer pictures found here:

Sauder Dozer Blade

I have the subframe from a Sauder loader I once owned that I was going to use for a snowplw but I decided I liked the Dearborn 19-80 scheme better. With just a little thought I am sure you can figure out how to make a unviersal quick attach version of the 19-80 that could be used for any front implement....

TOH

PS> You have a 9N which doesn't have the rear drawbar mounts - that requires something like this trumpet mounted version of the Sauder rear socket. I will have plenty of these available just as soon as my laser cutting shop gets back fto work after their Holiday break :roll:

Kirk-NJ · Dec 31, 2011

I don't know your location but I have one I will be selling came off an 8n. It's a cable system. It has a meyers snowplow blade. I can post some photos when I get my camera from my daughter. It has an angle iron frame. If you want to dulicate it and pick up a used blade somewhere. The frame runs back to the sway bar brackets.
Located in north west NJ

Kirk

8N'r--WI · Dec 31, 2011

j....
here are pics of my all original dearborn front bracket, rear bracket and retainer, and how it mounts on the rear...just put on the 8N a few weeks ago, and doesn"t look like I will need it this year....no snow on New Years in WI???

Usually 2-3 times a year one of these will pop to the surface in my area...Ebay, Craigslist,etc.

I would be willing trade someone for a hydraulic 19-80 to put on my 860...

Tim

Kurt-NEPA · Dec 31, 2011

A Dearborn plow and frame is for sale near Binghamton, NY.

I have no connection to the seller.

http://binghamton.craigslist.org/grd/2773424960.html

Kirk-NJ · Dec 31, 2011

Photo of the cable system plow with meyers blade I will sell once I clean in up a little.

Kirk

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