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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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Ford 8n loader

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Carl Koeppel

08-21-2011 11:22:59
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I have a 1952 ford 8n tractor. I want to put a front end loader on it. Where could I go to get a NEW loader on my 8n? Not an old loader with all of the cylindrical tubing, but a new light weight loader that doesn't have to lift very much. I live in Wisconsin.
Thanks, Carl




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isaac111

09-14-2011 15:17:16
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to TheOldHokie, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
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nice, thanks



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TheOldHokie

09-14-2011 05:54:11
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Caryc, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  

isaac111 said: (quoted from post at 22:51:16 09/13/11) yes, what is this TLB you speak of?


TLB = Tractor Loader Backhoe - a "tractor" specifically designed for use as a backhoe - something along the lines of this Ford 555 TLB.

They are available in many different makes and sizes - a bit more $$$ baut a lot more digging machine than a 3pt hoe. If you only need it for an occasional job you can rent a big late model TLB for about $100/day. The second picture is the Case 580M I rented for a week ($550) when digging the foundation for my shop - electronic F/R shift 4WD with enclosed cab - Schweet! I've had it here several different times - well worth the $$$$.
TOH




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isaac111

09-13-2011 19:51:16
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Bruce (VA), 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
yes, what is this TLB you speak of?



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TheOldHokie

09-13-2011 17:53:54
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Bruce (VA), 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
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Buy a small used TLB - you will be better served.

TOH



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Caryc

09-13-2011 19:15:39
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to TheOldHokie, 09-13-2011 17:53:54  
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What's a TLB?



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isaac111

09-13-2011 12:10:24
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Carl Koeppel, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
what about a backhoe attachment? I could use that much more than a loader



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TheOldHokie

08-22-2011 05:35:17
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Pete9990, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
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Paulson makes a lightweight loader for the N series. Their standard offering is power up gravity down with a trip bucket and is powered off the internal hydraulics requiring you to lock down the lift arms - e.g. no 3pt with the loader. They can add a hydraulic bucket, down pressure, and/or a front mounted pump for additional $$$$. Cost for the basic unit is considerably more than the price of a good 8N and the options run it even higher. Quite frankly the most cost effective solution is to replace the 8N with a more modern tractor/loader combo.

TOH

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Colin King

08-21-2011 18:22:51
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 Paulson Loaders in reply to Carl Koeppel, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
Paulson is a good name in the Upper Midwest and they have made loaders for many makes and models of tractors. I considered putting one on my 8N, but a new one will set you back as much as the tractor itself. They also have a drawback of running off the N"s internal hydraulics, which are very slow at 3gpm.

Colin, MN

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Caryc

08-21-2011 13:29:30
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Carl Koeppel, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
This is the Davis loader that I have on my 8N. The picture is not the exact one that I have on my tractor but it shows the whole loader without the tractor. I've had it on my 8N for 8 or 9 years with no problems and it gets plenty or use. But as was said, be prepared for a slow lumbering beast when you put a loader on your 8N.
It is powered by a front mount pump that works off the crankshaft.

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CJ in Michigan

08-21-2011 20:08:53
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Caryc, 08-21-2011 13:29:30  
I have a Davis FEL on one of my tractors- works well but as you say it is a bear to steer.



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Caryc

08-21-2011 22:03:53
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to CJ in Michigan, 08-21-2011 20:08:53  

CJ in Michigan said: (quoted from post at 20:08:53 08/21/11) I have a Davis FEL on one of my tractors- works well but as you say it is a bear to steer.


Do you have 6.50 X 16" truck tires on the front as I do?
This post was edited by Caryc at 10:29:56 08/22/11.

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Bruce (VA)

08-21-2011 11:28:32
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Carl Koeppel, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  

I'm not aware of any "new" loader available as a bolt-on for an N. But, there are a lot of things in life I'm not aware of, so maybe there is one out there.

That being said, I'd buy another N to put a loader on. I've got 3 8N's; one trailer queen & 2 workers. One of the workers is a 1951 w/ a Freeman loader. If I could only own one N, it would not have a loader on it. The N doesn't have PS, so a loader makes it very difficult to steer. (my wife can't drive it) Stopping it on a down slope w/ a full bucket is a real joy as well. Maneuvering around trees, etc, w/ that bucket out there isn't fun either. Some require you to chain the lift arms down to operate the loader. And, try a simple 5 minute repair job (points replacement) w/ some loaders attached & you will not be happy. Worst of all, the N wasn't designed to carry the weight of the loader & the load, so be prepared for split radius rods & worn out front end parts.

As an alternative, a rear scoop bucket on an N works very well.

As to ease of detachment like the new loaders feature.....it's not going to happen. The old loaders weren't meant to come off & on in 5 minutes like the new ones.

I built a frame to hold the lift cylinders, arms & bucket for my loader. I drive in & 20 - 30 minutes later & a lot of lost fluid, it's off.

There were at least 5 (& probably more) loaders built for N's; Wagner, Freeman, Dearborn, Davis & Sauder come to mind. Each has certain advantages over the other, (e.g., the Sauder does detach quicker) but all share the common disadvantages I mentioned above.

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Dean

08-21-2011 11:27:54
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Carl Koeppel, 08-21-2011 11:22:59  
Though not certain, I would be surprised to find anyone making new FELS for N series tractors.

That said, there ar e plenty of used loaders for N series tractors that are not made of "tubing."

Dean



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Carl Koeppel

08-21-2011 11:29:58
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 Re: Ford 8n loader in reply to Dean, 08-21-2011 11:27:54  
Thanks for the info.

Carl



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