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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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9N loader options?

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MeAnthony

05-14-2011 05:16:33
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I recently bought a 9N. My brother has a Golden Jubilee with a loader and front mounted hydraulic pump. Is there a setup like this for my 9N? I know my brother"s tractor steers pretty hard with the loader on, and it has power steering. Is it even a good idea to hang a loader on a 9N?

Thanks for you time,

Anthony




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Leroy

05-15-2011 06:10:46
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
Pretty much hard stearing problems are due to bad thrust bearings or lack of lube in the spindals.



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soundguy

05-14-2011 17:29:04
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
can it be done? sure..

is it a good idea?

that's difficult to qualify in general.

it's not an ideal platform for a loader.. for sure.. however.. on the other hand.. it sure beats a wheel barrow and a shovel.

If you own 2 N and one had a laoder, for dedicated tasks and the other was for general utility.. it would be an even better setup.. better yet.. upgrade to a 00/01 series :)

soundguy

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Fuddy Duddy

05-14-2011 16:55:23
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
I like the loader on my 8N. It helps when you are using it to have something heavy on the 3 point to held take some weight off the steers. Once you have one on there you won't want the give it up. Comes in handy on a lots of things. Having a second tractor to use is a good idea too.



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John P.

05-14-2011 15:46:24
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
Seems to me this is what sparked the show me your dirt scoop thread!

http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=731836



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jmortimer

05-14-2011 15:28:53
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
These Paulson loaders are a goo compromise. Can lift 800 lbs and only weighs 400 lbs. Single acting cylinder lifts up and gravity down and uses existing hydraulics. http://www.paulsonloaders.com/lightwtloader.htm
The frame will actually beef up your N so it is a pretty good deal all around.



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Bruce (VA)

05-14-2011 10:58:32
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
I've got 3 8N's; one trailer queen & 2 workers. One of the workers is a 1951 w/ a Freeman loader. If I could only own one N, it would not have a loader on it. The N doesn't have PS, so a loader makes it very difficult to steer. (my wife can't drive it) Stopping it on a down slope w/ a full bucket is a real joy as well. Maneuvering around trees, etc, w/ that bucket out there isn't fun either. Some require you to chain the lift arms down to operate the loader. And, try a simple 5 minute repair job (points replacement) w/ some loaders attached & you will not be happy. Worst of all, the N wasn't designed to carry the weight of the loader & the load, so be prepared for split radius rods & worn out front end parts.

As an alternative, a rear scoop bucket on an N works very well.

As to ease of detachment.....it's not going to happen. The old loaders weren't meant to come off & on in 5 minutes like the new ones.

I built a frame to hold the lift cylinders, arms & bucket for my loader. I drive in & 20 - 30 minutes later & a lot of lost fluid, it's off.

There were at least 5 (& probably more) loaders built for N's; Wagner, Freeman, Dearborn, Davis & Sauder come to mind. Each has certain advantages over the other, (e.g., the Sauder does detach quicker) but all share the common disadvantages I mentioned above.

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old

05-14-2011 10:21:10
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
Yep can be done and sure beats a wheel barrow and shovel but with much of a load in the bucket you may start to feel like the Hulk after a few hours of doing it day in day out. Also if you have those 19 inch narrow tires on it then that makes it even harder to steer. But yes there are many brands of loader that where made to fit the N series tractor and a lot of them where hyd buckets but a lot where also trip type and you do not want the trip type. But then you may not want a loader on that 9N but maybe find a different tractor for a loader and keep that 9N for garden duty etc

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GB in MT.

05-14-2011 07:12:07
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to drylakemachine, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  


MeAnthony;

You ask...."Is it even a good idea to hang a loader on a 9N?"

JMHO........NO!!!!

Just a few things that needed fixed on my 2N, after the PO, had a FEL, hung on it.

Front axle pin broken

Frt. axle had cracks around the axlebore

Frt. axle support cracked in three places, and needed the pin bores re-built, and bore lined..(frt and back)

Add the things that, the other guys told ya.....and you can see why I say .......NO!!!!!!

Buy a 30" rear scoop, to move dirt with, and if you need a LOT of dirt moved, either have it done for you, or rent a tractor that will handle a loader!!! JMO!!

Gary

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John P.

05-14-2011 06:33:22
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to MeAnthony, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
Loaders pretty much destroy the original steering boxes. You would probably be better off with a dirt scoop.



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TheOldHokie

05-14-2011 05:56:53
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 Re: 9N loader options? in reply to jim in NY, 05-14-2011 05:16:33  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Yes - you can put a loader and front pump on a 9N. Not a good match in my opinion but there are plenty of them out there. Heavy steering and poor gearing for loader work are the two big issues. Beats a wheel barrow if you have to move a lot of material.

TOH



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