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ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary

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Eric Glen

01-15-2011 20:48:07
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I have recently acquired a ford 9n Ser. No. *9N485*. it has a cast aluminum hood and other aluminum parts throughout respective to the low serial number. the hood is broken in the front and the grill is missing. other than that, overall the tractor is in pretty good shape (complete and original). the tractor is also equipped with an auxiliary transmission. how many different types of auxiliary trans were available and were they the same as auxiliary trans that fit the later serial numbers? I realize that these tractors are pretty rare, but I haven"t even heard of one this early with an auxiliary. does any one know how much this tractor may be worth? many thanks.

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Shaun Wallace

01-17-2011 19:09:17
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to Eric Glen, 01-15-2011 20:48:07  
Is this the one that has what looks to have restamped s/n from several months ago? I think it was in St Louis Mo area.



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Eric glen

01-17-2011 19:57:35
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to Shaun Wallace, 01-17-2011 19:09:17  
No it is definitely not restamped. I am located in nw Oregon and the guy I got it from said it was around here for years so it probably didn't come from st Louis. I was surprised to find such an early tractor so far west.



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Walston

01-16-2011 08:09:03
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to rnorum, 01-15-2011 20:48:07  
On a side note, I just watched the video that I got for Christmas, "An Interview with Harold Brock, Chief Designer of the Ford 9N Tractor". (Seemed like a great guy, God Rest His Sole.)

In the video he explains why the early tractors had the cast aluminum parts.
Basically Henry Ford had them on such a hurried schedule (concept to manufacturing in 6 months), they didn't have time to build sheet metal dies to make the hood and grill, so they went with the aluminum cast until the dies were designed and built.

He also mentioned that Charlie Sorensen's son owned the aluminum casting company making the cast grills and Sorensen instructed Brock to not design a new grill from steel. Brock got a grill, brought it to his office and showed Sorensen that if you stepped on it it would very easily break and then Sorensen finally agreed to have Brock redesign it.

The original grill design was based on the new Mercury car at the time.

I enjoyed the video, the world was a different place back then. The video is a little less than 2 hours.

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old-9

01-16-2011 07:21:52
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to Eric Glen, 01-15-2011 20:48:07  
The hood can be welded, and a new grill can be bought from Dennis Carpenter, $300 last I rember. Make sure whoever works on the hood is VERY good at what he does. The hood alone is worth a couple grand. I don't need it but if you want to sell I can help you with a buyer. Or I will see if I can come up with the money.
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Leroy

01-16-2011 05:01:05
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to Eric Glen, 01-15-2011 20:48:07  
Does it still have the flat rear hubs or have they been replaced with the newer rivited style?



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jon

01-15-2011 21:50:13
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to Eric Glen, 01-15-2011 20:48:07  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Pics, we gotta have pics! :lol:

As far as the Axillary trans goes, it could have been put in years ago or last week.

Sherman, Howard & Hupp seem to be the most common brands I hear but there's others out there.



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Dell (WA)

01-15-2011 21:09:15
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to Eric Glen, 01-15-2011 20:48:07  
Eric.......you ask......."the tractor is also equipped with an auxiliary transmission. how many different types of auxiliary trans were available and were they the same as auxiliary trans that fit the later serial numbers?".......AFAIK, Sherman's were the "ONLY" aux tranny available until after WW2.

AFAIK, Sherman's had an "HELIX" output gear and early 3-speed trannys were "straight-cut" input gear. There was a "kit" available to convert early straight-cut trannys to the "better and quieter" helix input gears. That is the ONLY way Shermans would fit early 3-speed trannys.

You ask......"does any one know how much this tractor may be worth?".......while an aluminium hooded 9N is a great find, it is still a 3-speed 9N. Since I am NOT a sphincterly challenged tractor collector, its worth about $2000 to me iff'n the $500 rear ag-bar tires are good and the engine runs. ........respectfully, Dell, the non-authority

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ron8n

01-17-2011 15:52:10
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 Re: ford 9n w/ Aluminum Hood and auxiliary in reply to Dell (WA), 01-15-2011 21:09:15  
the first 700 9ns had the alum hood. about 40,000 had the alum steering box. an iron box was sold for repairs. There was an early sherman for the straight cut gears. They howled.
Most were converted to helical gears. The alum grille had a poor survival rate.



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