Yesterday's Tractor Co. Same-Day Parts Shipping Available
Click Here or call 800-853-2651 
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Tractor Town
Your Stories
Show & Pull Guide
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

Related Sites
Tractor Shed
TractorLinks.com
Ford 8N/9N Club
Today's Tractors
Garden Tractors
Classic Trucks
Kountry Life
Enter your email address to receive our newsletter!

subscribe
unsubscribe
  
Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
Show Parts for Model:

replace fan belt 8n

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author  [Modern View]
NanaDeb62

12-24-2010 15:31:22
12.169.4.51



Report to Moderator

How do we remove and replace the fan belt for our 49 Ford 8N? Can we do it or do we have to take it to someone?




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
NanaDeb62

12-25-2010 08:34:42
12.169.4.51



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
Ok, here we go. He is actually working on this today. Deerborn loader on the tractor. The coupling on the crankshaft pulley is the issue. So there's no way to put belt on the pully. How do I deal with that? There must be something we're missing here.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
ericlb

12-25-2010 07:04:31
12.189.32.37



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
sorry i did not realize there was a loader on the tractor, i had just changed the belt on a 8n that very afternoon, but it doesnt have a loader, you can still do it yourself though, the guys here have told you how,



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
TheOldHokie

12-25-2010 06:37:18
71.176.135.226



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Sean (TX), 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

It could be either. You can tell which it is by inspecting the hub on the crankshaft end of the shaft.

If the hub appears to be on the end of the drive shaft and has 4 pins sticking out that engage rubber bushings in the face of the pully it is a left hand thread on the shaft. You must unscrew the hub from the shaft and withdraw the shaft out the front. Then the hub can be liffted out vertically.

If the hub appears to be bolted to the crankshaft pully with 4 bolts the shaft is a splined fit in the hub and it can simply be pulled out towards the front.

HTH,

TOH

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
NanaDeb62

12-25-2010 08:39:10
12.169.4.51



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to TheOldHokie, 12-25-2010 06:37:18  
"Simply" seems to be beyond hubby today. He has the splined (spelling?) There doesn't seem to be room to get the bolts out? The front axle pivot seems to be in the way..does this help to help us? Sorry to be such a pain...haha



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Del Huebner

12-25-2010 07:06:16
173.17.152.216



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to TheOldHokie, 12-25-2010 06:37:18  
TOH, Thanks for the great explanation, now I know what to look for. Have a Merry Christmas. Del



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
TheOldHokie

12-24-2010 19:21:42
71.176.135.226



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Ken(Ark), 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Not all loader pumps use the lefthand thread setup. Many use a splined shaft that can simply be withdrawn. In my experience the splined setup is more common than the left hand thread hub.

TOH



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Del Huebner

12-25-2010 05:50:12
173.17.152.216



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to TheOldHokie, 12-24-2010 19:21:42  
Would you happen to know if the Wagner loader pump is a spline or the left handed threads?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Al P

12-25-2010 07:47:24
64.7.166.43



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Del Huebner, 12-25-2010 05:50:12  
I have a Wagner loader on my 8N and had it off as recently as a year ago. I know for certain that the hydraulic pump drive shaft on my Wagner loader has a left hand thread.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Caryc

12-24-2010 19:15:17
209.86.226.60



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
The edit function is not working here so I had to put this in another post.
You won't need to unhook any hydraulic lines. Just undo the pump from the base and pull it forward a bit, maybe wire it out of the way. Then undo the coupler so you can get out that bolt that screws into the drive shaft. Remember the left thread.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Caryc

12-24-2010 19:11:05
209.86.226.60



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Sawatch 8N, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

I have a Davis loader on mine 8N with a front mount pump. I had to remove the pump to get the new belt on. As I remember, it wasn't that big of a job. Just remember the pump shaft is held on with left hand threads.
Kind of a pain in the a$$ but doable. I have a 14" bandsaw that I put one of those linked belts on to reduce vibration. Worked like a charm.
But I'd still rather run a solid belt on the tractor. As I said even with the loader pump anybody should be able to do it.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bob

12-24-2010 16:27:01
69.178.228.68



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
Is there a loader on it? (If there is, and it has a front-mounted hydraulic pump the driveshaft for the hydraulic pump has to be removed to allow the belt to be removed/replaced.)



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
NanaDeb62

12-24-2010 17:47:46
12.169.4.51



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Bob, 12-24-2010 16:27:01  
There is a loader on it and a front mounted hydraulic pump. There is no room between the pulley and the front axle pivot



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dell (WA)

12-24-2010 18:45:32
207.200.112.70



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 17:47:46  
Nana.......didja know that there are replacement belts that look like BIG plastic bicycle chains??? And after you CUT yer OLDBELT you can pullet out. Then its just matter of fishing the NEW CHAIN belt under the crankshaft pulley and adjusting the number of links so you can do the final tightening with the genny/alternator adjustment. Simple, eh?

Otherwize you haffta remove the FEL pump driveshaft to fish a 1-piece belt under the engine crankshaft pulley. Not hard but takes some time futtzzin around the FEL arms an stuff.

You'll haffta search around for the 1-size fittz-awl plastic chain fanbelt. NAPA??? ......HTH, Dell the un-chained

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
NanaDeb62

12-25-2010 06:58:44
12.169.4.51



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Dell (WA), 12-24-2010 18:45:32  
Where can I get one of those replacement belts? Tried looking at Harbor Freight, didn't find anything.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Al P

12-25-2010 07:59:17
64.7.166.43



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-25-2010 06:58:44  
If you prefer to use a solid belt and you have a Wagner loader on your 8N, this is what it takes to remove the hydraulic pump drive shaft:
First, there are two bolts located on the bottom of the pump used to adjust and hold the pump in place. Loosen these bolts.
Second, take the nuts off of the two bolts that connect the pump shaft to the drive shaft and slide the pump forward, away from the drive shaft.
Finally, keeping in mind that this is a left hand thread, remove the drive shaft from the disc that is driven by the crank shaft pulley.
After installing the new belt just reverse the process to re-install the pump.
FYI - You can get a copy of the Wagner loader manual if you visit the Wagner web site. They no longer manufacture of service the loaders but they do have an electronic copy of the manual that they are kind enough to make available to us. I found it last year when I did some work on mine. If you have trouble locating it let me know and I'll try to re-trace my steps and give you more specific instructions.
Good luck.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
R Geiger

12-24-2010 19:09:28
71.111.114.180



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Dell (WA), 12-24-2010 18:45:32  
They are called a vibration proof belt and can be gotten at Harbour freight



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
ericlb

12-24-2010 15:55:32
75.107.64.57



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
nana, its pretty easy, assuming the 8n is original with a 6v generator, loosen the bolts that bolt the generator to its mounting brackets, then push the generator towards the engine as far as it will go, remove the belt from its pulley, then work it off the fan by rotating the fan by hand, let it drop from the bottom of the crank pulley, [ if it hasnt already by now] and its off, install the new one the same way, make sure to tighten the generator so there is about 1/2 inch of slack in the belt up and down, measured at a point midway between the pulleys

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
NanaDeb62

12-24-2010 17:45:40
12.169.4.51



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to ericlb, 12-24-2010 15:55:32  
Wow there sure isn't much room under there to get that belt off and on that bottom pulley..you're talking about an 8N right?? That's what it is.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mike Groom

12-24-2010 15:53:12
12.179.5.197



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
It's a simple operation you can do yourself,just loosen the generator adjustment bolt and push the gen.in toward the engine and take the belt off the pulley,the hardest part is getting the belt out from under the bottom pulley and back under it again,put it back on all the pulleys like it came off and tighten the gen. adjusting bolt and you're good to go.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
NanaDeb62

12-24-2010 18:08:21
12.169.4.51



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to Mike Groom, 12-24-2010 15:53:12  
There's no room to slip that belt on and off! Are we talking the same tractor? My hubby is sure we can't do it...but I'm determined to find a way if we can...



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
wwildhorse2k

12-24-2010 15:51:55
75.15.165.229



Report to Moderator
 Re: replace fan belt 8n in reply to NanaDeb62, 12-24-2010 15:31:22  
You can do it yourself. The tensioner for the belt is the alternator or generator. Loosen the generator or alternator and take the belt off the pulley. work the belt off the crankshaft pulley. turn the fan and work the belt off the fan ( water pump) pulley.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:

TRACTOR   PARTS TRACTOR   MANUALS
Same-Day Shipping! Most of our stocked parts ship the same day you order (M-F).  Expedited shipping available, just call!  Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors.  Compare our super low shipping rates!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  We are a Company you can trust and have generous return policies!   Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651. [ More Info ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2014 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters