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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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Jubilee vs 8N plowing

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FLAcharlie

11-25-2009 13:57:57
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Just watching on RFD-TV, they were showing a "plowing day" somewhere in Pennsylvania. Mostly the green ones, but there were a couple Jubilees plowing too.

My understanding was, the 8N transmission doesnt allow for it to go slow enough for plowing, did the Jubilee have a different transmission that allowed it ?

The soil here in North FLA ought to be about as easy as it gets, as it is so sandy.

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Sean (TX)

11-26-2009 14:41:36
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Dunk, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  

Lumpy said: (quoted from post at 00:10:02 11/26/09) Aww gee thanks Sean. Makes me think I have my own fan club. Your right though. That is my '47 2n pulling 2x14's about 7-8" deep. I was running in second gear. Now to brag a little.... notice how clean the furrow is? Alot of adjusting and tweeking. A couple of the older guys that day, complimented me for my plowing... "not to many young guys know how to set a plow and get furrows like that". I just smiled and said thanks!


Its one of my favorites on youtube...Added it to favorites. I love that exhaust. I got one for my 2N I liked it so much. I turned my rain cap so the exhaust goes to the right. I love the sound!!
This post was edited by Sean (TX) at 14:43:00 11/26/09.

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Bill(Wis)

11-26-2009 14:14:40
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
No one mentioned it yet but whoever told you that was confusing a plow with a roto-tiller or a snowblower. Low in an N is too fast for roto-tilling and a Sherman stepdown won't help one bit. Reverse is too fast for a snowblower but you probably don't get much snow. But for plowing in sand..they can't be beat.



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Lumpy

11-26-2009 15:45:53
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Bill(Wis), 11-26-2009 14:14:40  
I wonder where plowing sand comes in at?



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lha

11-26-2009 08:50:31
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
My '41 9n seams to do a great job with a dearborn 14" 2bottom plow never bogs even on 'virgin'soil which in west Tn tends to be gumbo---lha



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Sean (TX)

11-25-2009 18:42:39
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
I think Lumpy has a 2N..Looks like he is doing pretty good pulling a 2 bottom plow that they were designed to pull. Audio/Video clip:2N pulling a 2 bottom plow P

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Lumpy

11-25-2009 20:10:02
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Sean (TX), 11-25-2009 18:42:39  
Aww gee thanks Sean. Makes me think I have my own fan club. Your right though. That is my '47 2n pulling 2x14's about 7-8" deep. I was running in second gear. Now to brag a little.... notice how clean the furrow is? Alot of adjusting and tweeking. A couple of the older guys that day, complimented me for my plowing... "not to many young guys know how to set a plow and get furrows like that". I just smiled and said thanks!

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Dean

11-26-2009 05:23:59
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Lumpy, 11-25-2009 20:10:02  
That's some nice ground, Lumpy. It looks like it could be planted without discing.

Dean



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Greybeard - PA

11-25-2009 18:20:26
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
I grew up on a PA dairy farm and helped to wear out an 8N and a Jubilee. Either one pulled two 14's as deep as you want to plow normally. Our next door farm neighbor had a MD farmall and pulled two trailer 14's. I could plow deeper and faster - and bury trash better in corn stubble - than he could, much to his consternation.

It's all about how the weight is transferred to the rear wheels . . . and yes, Ferguson really was a genius to figger it all out.

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shortcourse

11-25-2009 17:43:17
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
Look around for a used 214 FORD plow,they sell for $250.00 every day here in Indiana,MIKE



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JMOR

11-25-2009 17:32:05
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to T144, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  

Tom 43 said: (quoted from post at 21:28:12 11/25/09) That is utter nonsense! The 8N was built to pull a hay rake or a mowing machine, not to plow tough ground. A Farmall M would plow as much as three Ns.


Tom43, you don't need draft control to pull a hay rake! Pull it out.

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Ultradog MN

11-25-2009 16:13:06
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
The small Fords were built to be plowing tractors.
A large part of Harry Fergusom's brilliance is that he perfected the mounted plow. A mounted plow is carried by the tractor at all times - even when it's in the ground - and the lifting of the furrows transfers weight onto the rear tires. This allowed a small, light weight tractor pull as many bottoms as a tractor a thousand pounds heavier would pull with a trailer plow.

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Tom 43

11-25-2009 17:28:12
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-25-2009 16:13:06  
That is utter nonsense! The 8N was built to pull a hay rake or a mowing machine, not to plow tough ground. A Farmall M would plow as much as three Ns.



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Elvin Frank

11-25-2009 21:21:59
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Tom 43, 11-25-2009 17:28:12  
that is because an M was about 3 N's, Ray Charles can see that



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Lumpy

11-25-2009 20:24:39
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Tom 43, 11-25-2009 17:28:12  
This past spring I was plowing with JD 4020's, a Ford 8000, and a Farmall 560. Not one single one of them could pull away from me. My old ford 2n was plowing the same depth as them. A Farmall M is rated for a 3x14 plow. So there is no way you can plow more acres in a day than a pair of 8n's pulling 2x14's.



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Dean

11-25-2009 17:47:18
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Tom 43, 11-25-2009 17:28:12  
Tom:

Your ignorance is showing badly.

The Ford Ns were, indeed, made for plowing and would plow more ground using less fuel than ANY tractor within 1000 lbs. or so of of their weight. This includes the AC WC/WD/WD45s, which would work with the comparable Farmalls while using less fuel.

You don't believe? Bring out your FACTORY STOCK M with trailer plow. I and a good friend will match you with my FACTORY STOCK 51 and 52 8Ns (2 Ns, not 3). We will plow as much or more than you, and I will put both tractors and plows on the line against yours.

Dean

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35thLE

11-25-2009 15:57:16
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to TOM N MS, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  

Lumpy said: (quoted from post at 16:35:29 11/25/09) The transmission is the same in both tractors. The only reasons the Jubilee will out plow the 8n, is the Jubilee has about 7hp more and weights more.


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Lumpy

11-25-2009 15:35:29
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
The transmission is the same in both tractors. The only reasons the Jubilee will out plow the 8n, is the Jubilee has about 7hp more and weights more.



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Stockdale Dave

11-25-2009 14:00:25
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 13:57:57  
8n's will plow all day long as long as the plow isn'y oversized. A 2 bottom is common in Texas. The only thing I'm aware that the 8n is too fast for is rototilling.



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FLAcharlie

11-25-2009 14:16:19
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to Stockdale Dave, 11-25-2009 14:00:25  
Excellent ! I see Tractor Supply carries a two bottom plow.
Would like to put in for some peanuts.



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soundguy

11-25-2009 19:06:13
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 Re: Jubilee vs 8N plowing in reply to FLAcharlie, 11-25-2009 14:16:19  
yep.. the N's were amde with plowing in mind.. in fact hte 9n/2n only had draft hyds.. that means their 3pt lift was designed pretty much with ground engagement in mind..

soundguy



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