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Ford 9N Starter Installation

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Bob Myers

11-18-2009 09:10:59
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I have an issue of putting the starter back on my 9N. Bruce(Va)has offered some good advice,but I have had trouble responding so I'm starting a new posting. I can't quite get the starter into position to bolt in on. The teeth on the starter abut the flywheel teeth, but I can't move it sideways enough to engage it. This is the same starter I took off so I know it fit once. The hoe is egg-shaped, but I still need another 1/4 or so of movement. Any suggestions?

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don b 1

11-19-2009 08:38:03
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bob Myers, 11-18-2009 09:10:59  
Bob......did you remove the engine drain cock and oil canister?Doing this gives a lot more wiggle room. don b1



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Bob Myers

11-19-2009 17:22:43
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to don b 1, 11-19-2009 08:38:03  
Don, yes I have removed them. Thanks.

Bob



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Bruce (VA)

11-18-2009 14:24:57
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bob Myers, 11-18-2009 09:10:59  
Did you engage the bendix while it was off? If it has the big spring on it, it's the old style; spin it back on the wire wheel on your bench grinder. If it doesn't have the big spring, post back for help on spinning it back; I slept through that class!



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Bob Myers

11-18-2009 17:34:55
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bruce (VA), 11-18-2009 14:24:57  
Bruce, both you and "soundguy" mentioned using a wire brush to spin the starter back. I can move it back by hand fairly easily. Does this indicate a problem? The assembly has a 2" dia spring that is 1.5" long when assemabled and 1" when compressed. Is this what you are calling a big spring? Should the spring be compressed or not when assembling to the tractor?



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Bruce (VA)

11-19-2009 06:14:33
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bob Myers, 11-18-2009 17:34:55  
When the starter motor turns, it draws the bendix forward on the shaft toward the starter motor. The bendix then engages the ring gear & turns the engine over. When the engine RPM's exceed the bendix design speed (which I can never remember)the bendix disengages.

Look at the gear on the bendix. If it is about 2 inches back on the shaft from the motor, it is disengaged.

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soundguy

11-18-2009 09:27:09
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bob Myers, 11-18-2009 09:10:59  
sound slike you have the drive in the 'engaged' position where it is sucked in close tot he starter face.. in that case, I'd either spin it back out on a wire wheel on my bench grinder or drill press, or rotate the drive a bit to try to get the teeth to line up and fall into place. They are a tough cookie to install when engaged.. but I've done it.

soundguy



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Bob Myers

11-24-2009 11:05:51
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to soundguy, 11-18-2009 09:27:09  
Soundguy, I think you must be correct that the starter is in the engaged position. I can rotate it by hand to the disengaged position but it won't stay there while I am jostling it around. Any other advice?



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soundguy

11-24-2009 11:56:03
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bob Myers, 11-24-2009 11:05:51  
you should not be able to rotate it to the out position by hand.. it usually has to be spun out by overspeed motion.

soundguy



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Bob Myers

11-24-2009 17:52:48
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to soundguy, 11-24-2009 11:56:03  
Thanks. I think you have given me the key. I probably cant get it installed because it isn't in the OUT position. There must be something wrong with the Bendix or me. So I will probably have to have a professional look it over. Thanks again.
Bob



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soundguy

11-25-2009 06:52:13
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bob Myers, 11-24-2009 17:52:48  
post a pic.

soundguy



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Danny in CO

11-18-2009 09:17:59
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 Re: Ford 9N Starter Installation in reply to Bob Myers, 11-18-2009 09:10:59  
Bob,

Make the hole a little more egg-shaped.

Danny



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