(quoted from post at 17:56:52 07/29/09) Well I guess my question really is on the back of the bucket it says the 303 premium transmission and hydraulic fluid may be used where these man. part numbers are used. Under the ford/nh listing it says it is equivelent to
ESN-M2C,134B, C. So I thought that the m2c-134b meant that it would be ok to use. I am asking advice because I am new to this. And wanting to make sure I understand properly. I cant afford to tear something up right now. Brian
(quoted from post at 19:32:58 07/29/09)(quoted from post at 17:56:52 07/29/09) Well I guess my question really is on the back of the bucket it says the 303 premium transmission and hydraulic fluid may be used where these man. part numbers are used. Under the ford/nh listing it says it is equivelent to
ESN-M2C,134B, C. So I thought that the m2c-134b meant that it would be ok to use. I am asking advice because I am new to this. And wanting to make sure I understand properly. I cant afford to tear something up right now. Brian
If it's suitable for use where M2C-134x is specified it is fine.
TOH
(quoted from post at 18:36:07 07/29/09)(quoted from post at 19:32:58 07/29/09)(quoted from post at 17:56:52 07/29/09) Well I guess my question really is on the back of the bucket it says the 303 premium transmission and hydraulic fluid may be used where these man. part numbers are used. Under the ford/nh listing it says it is equivelent to
ESN-M2C,134B, C. So I thought that the m2c-134b meant that it would be ok to use. I am asking advice because I am new to this. And wanting to make sure I understand properly. I cant afford to tear something up right now. Brian
If it's suitable for use where M2C-134x is specified it is fine.
TOH
I don't think I would use it.
Its viscosity is comparable to a 10W/20 fluid. It is formulated to provide the desired performance in various pieces of equipment, including the following:
NEW HOLLAND (Ford)
ESN-M2C-86-A
ESN-M2C-134-A
ESN-M2C-134-B
ESN-M2C-134-C
ESN-M2C-134-D
ESN-M2C-77-A
ESN-M2C-41-A
More:
http://www.texasrefinery.com/lb-special303.htm
But then I don't know, and I have used GL-5, and I now have about half GL-1 and GL-5.
10W/20 fluid seems awful light.....
(quoted from post at 21:40:19 07/29/09) now i am evan more confused after the very detailed reply be hokie. sounds like he says I CAN use the 303. sorry guys. Brian
(quoted from post at 20:40:19 07/29/09) now i am evan more confused after the very detailed reply be hokie. sounds like he says I CAN use the 303. sorry guys. Brian
(quoted from post at 18:13:48 07/31/09) Dunk,the experts have made a good case for 134 fluid.Now I will tell you what Ive learned using it in My 600.I have a vane pump on the tractor.In cold weather I can lift an 8 to 12 foot ash log I cut some dying white Ash from field edges.This is using my carry all.At 80 degrees I can lift 3 bales of hay at best.My cord wood saw weighs 300 lb.I cant lift it on a hot day.134 fluid thins badly when hot.I have 134 in my hydraulic system.It will cost 499 bucks to rebuild the vane pump or 1500 bucks plus to put on a piston pump.134 may be ok in new tractors but its worthless in old tractors.A Kendall oil has been reccomended but no one in the state handles it.
(quoted from post at 19:13:48 07/31/09) Dunk,the experts have made a good case for 134 fluid.Now I will tell you what Ive learned using it in My 600.I have a vane pump on the tractor.In cold weather I can lift an 8 to 12 foot ash log I cut some dying white Ash from field edges.This is using my carry all.At 80 degrees I can lift 3 bales of hay at best.My cord wood saw weighs 300 lb.I cant lift it on a hot day.134 fluid thins badly when hot.I have 134 in my hydraulic system.It will cost 499 bucks to rebuild the vane pump or 1500 bucks plus to put on a piston pump.134 may be ok in new tractors but its worthless in old tractors.A Kendall oil has been reccomended but no one in the state handles it.
(quoted from post at 05:57:21 08/01/09) Ive posted the facts.134 wont work in all tractors.The ring gear and pinion of the 9n are the same as a 29 Model A big truck.These gears were made to run in a 140 extreme pressure oil, not thin oil that gets thinner when it heats up.Ford Motor co did not reccomend using 134 in old tractor.New Holland did when the pulled the Ford label off the tractors.I have 90 ep in the differential of my 600.Kendall Ken Tran is a 40 weight transmission oil used in big trucks.We all know that old worn tractors cant use the 10/30 oils.They run better on original spec oils.Many 9n owners complain of increased leakage when 134 is used.134 is thin like atf fluid.A fellow who worked blending ATF said this.He started with a 20 weight oil and added red dye and seal conditioners.
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