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Bush Hog Size for 8N

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Yank Yarborough

06-21-1999 09:40:24




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I purchased a 52 8N last week with several pieces of equipment. The previous owner sold the bush hog before I got the rest. My neighbor has a 6 foot bush hog, but he says it may be too much for the tractor. Can the 8N handle the 6 footer, or should I try to find a 5 foot hog? By the way, I am very pleased with how the tractor has performed so far!!! And yes, it has the ORC!

Thanks in advance,
Yank

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farmerJim

11-30-1999 09:27:19




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 Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Yank Yarborough, 06-21-1999 09:40:24  
I'm interested in your neighbor's 6-ft 'bush hog'. Is it a genuine "Bush Hog" brand, or a generic "bush hog" (i.e. Rhino, Woods, Brush Hog, John Deere, etc)? There's a difference.

Thanks in advance.



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earl(tx)

06-21-1999 17:48:19




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 Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Yank Yarborough, 06-21-1999 09:40:24  
Here's a link to look at the chains I made for my brushhog.

The chains are attached to the lift pins on the mower. When you get the mower like you want it, just drop the chains onto the hooks on the top link. Count the links from the end of the chain to the hooks and remember. This way, you can "set it and forget it!".

"Don't fergit to turn when ya' get to the utha' end!"

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Dell (WA)

06-21-1999 09:59:57




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 Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Yank Yarborough, 06-21-1999 09:40:24  
Yank..... ..why don't you "borrow" your neighbor's 6' brush hog and try it out?

It just might depend upon what you are mowing. Really tall grass, hay, heavy brush, just take 1/2 a pass. Normal flat land pasture clipping probably no problem, except for rear tire clearance. You might have to widen out your rear tires one notch per the owners manual.

Wheather 6' or 5', you should also consider using "limiter chains" to take the weight off your 3-point hydraulics, the chain still allow you to use the hydraulics to lift the mower over things. And also recommend "anti-sway bars" back to the under the fender bracket.

I'm pleased to learn you already have an ORC The ORC safety preacher..... ..Dell

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To..Dell

06-21-1999 11:51:58




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 Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Dell (WA), 06-21-1999 09:59:57  
Coincidently, I was at my NH dealer this weekend looking to buy a Bush Hog 48" for my 2n to do some not too heavy trimming around the property once or twice a year. The salesman said that the 2n was really no good for that implement since the hydraulics won't control the height of the cut. Do you know of people or yourself using a 9 or 2n with the 3 point bush hog ? The name of the brand was call "Bush Hog".
thanks
Tim K

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Woody

06-26-1999 08:51:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to To..Dell, 06-21-1999 11:51:58  
Dell, I have an old 9-N that is old as I am and darn near as tired. Burns about much oil as gas. Weak. You get the picture. It does very well using a 5-foot Bush-Hog brand "Squealer" model. Insofar as height adjustment, I use limiter chains similar to those in this series of postings. The "Squealer" employs a heavy chain between the top link and the end of the unit which allows for flex; taking stress off the implement and the 3PH.

This combo does a good job for me for even heavy clipping. Of course, one must use a little judgement as far as height or whether a less than full pass will be easier on the tractor. Most times a full pass is o.k. just cut high enough that you keep the blade out of the ground. I might also suggest that you consider purchasing the model with the friction clutch rather than the one which uses shear pins. Stumps, you know. Bear in mind that this advice and a dollar will buy a cold suds in some places.

Woody

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wow, such mail, tnx guys..........Dell (WA)

06-21-1999 20:07:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to To..Dell, 06-21-1999 11:51:58  
Tim..... ..I think from reading all the "mail", the answer to your question should be "obvious".

I don't think your "salesman" knows very much about the 2N (grin) and is probabily anxious to sell you a new tractor with all the bells and whistles,

But he is somewhat correct in that the 2N and 9N do not have "position control" like the 8N, but if you will read all the mail, I think $40 for manufactured "limiter chains" (or you can make 'em yourself) and will probably beat monthly payments on a new tractor, hands down.

Most 2N's will eazily handle a 5' brush hog, which fits nicely behind your tractor's rear tires and 5'ers don't save that much $$$ over 4'ers but certainly will save you 25% mowing time (5' is 25% bigger than 4')

Hope this helps..... .Dell

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Kevin (OR)

06-21-1999 13:32:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to To..Dell, 06-21-1999 11:51:58  
The N's hydraulics are made for draft control, meaning they do change height and affect cutting. No problem. Just get a set of limiter chains which essentially hold the mower at one level. A must for mowing. You can buy them many places, but if they aren't available, I'd be glad to sell you my old set, which I no longer need because I bought a different tractor, for $10 plus shipping. The chains are an essential safety feature, because you will be watching where you are going instead of constantly checking over your shoulder to see what your mowing deck is doing.

KG

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Lynn Busby

06-22-1999 07:00:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Kevin (OR), 06-21-1999 13:32:57  
I'd be interested in those safety chains that you have for sale...that is, if they're still available. Thanks.



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Lynn Busby

06-22-1999 07:00:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Kevin (OR), 06-21-1999 13:32:57  
I'd be interested in those safety chains that you have for sale...that is, if they're still available. Thanks.



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Kevin (OR)

06-22-1999 07:49:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Lynn Busby, 06-22-1999 07:00:15  
email me kgerg@hotmail.com



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Jerry in Al

06-21-1999 12:48:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to To..Dell, 06-21-1999 11:51:58  
"Bush hog" is made in my part of the country. Manufactured in Prattville, Al. These cutters are used extensively in this part of the country. They are thought to be a good unit. As a matter of fact, everyone practically refers to a rotary cutter as a bush hog around here. You can do a search and find their web site. They are a big outfit.



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Yank Yarborough

06-21-1999 14:02:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Jerry in Al, 06-21-1999 12:48:27  
Thanks for the help folks. I think I'll try the neighbor's 6 foot hog since I'm "mowing" and not cutting anything too thick. Where do I hook up the "safety chains"? From the front of the hog to ?? on the tractor.

Thanks again,
Yank



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Kevin (OR)

06-21-1999 14:43:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Yank Yarborough, 06-21-1999 14:02:36  
check the archives, there used to be a good diagram of how the chains worked. They basically go between the top link connection (on the tractor) to the two points of the lift arms. You adjust the chain length to change the cutting height.



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jerry in AL

06-21-1999 16:58:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Kevin (OR), 06-21-1999 14:43:15  
I just got my 8N about three weeks back. The bush hog that came with the tractor has hooks welded on the front of it. Below where the upper link connects to the tractor, there is a round bar about 10-12 inches long. On that bar are two links of chain that have been pulled open. It appears that at one time chains were hooked from there to the front of the bush hog.

I would also like to know the proper way to put chains on or more specifically if this was a wrong way before I put them back.

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Dell (WA)

06-21-1999 19:47:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to jerry in AL, 06-21-1999 16:58:49  
Jerry..... ..ya' put 'em on so none of the slack chain can get mowed (grin)

The limiter chain concept is to set the mower's height mechanically and yet allow the tractor hydraulics to lift the mower over an obstical by: 1) use a longer top link pin (under the tractor seat) to hold the 2 keyhole pieces PLUS the normal 3-point top link. Your 8N's 12" bar will will work just as well
2) fasten the chain ends to the mower's lower 2 links (one on each side) or in your case, the welded hooks on the front of the mower
3) without the mower drive shaft hooked up to the PTO, hydraulically raise the mower front end to your mowing height
4) then catch the free ends of your chains in the keyhole slot (equal length; count 'em)
5) now then, most set the mower's rear wheel about 1" higher in the rear than the front. 6) The reasoning is: you only cut the grass once instead of clippity..clipitty...clip, at the front which is closest to the ground. and the higher back also allows the cut grass a way out

There are some "brush-hog" link-ups that use a chain inplace of the standard screw adjustable top link.....DON'T DO IT!!!.....if your mower hits an immoveable object while using a "chain top link", it will bounce and pivot around the lower links. It may hit the tractor driver in the back of the head and it will certainly toss "nasties" out from under the mower at kids, wife's car.....etc... The solid link will prevent this trageity from happening.

Hope this helps. Yours for safer tractoring..... .Dell

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Jerry in Al

06-21-1999 20:35:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush Hog Size for 8N in reply to Dell (WA), 06-21-1999 19:47:30  
Thanks Dell. Bush hogs scare me and I really don't want to do much until I am sure I know EXACTLY what I'm doing.

Another note for your safety file--

A fellow recently here in Alabama lost a foot and part of his ankle stepping on the deck of a running bush hog. You guessed it, A badly rusted out deck covered with old clippings gave way just enough for his foot to get in. Can't even imagine why anyone would do such.

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