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Ford 9N, 2N & 8N Discussion Forum
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Berrymans to free 'stuck' piston rings??

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Lee Holifield

08-19-2007 01:37:47
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I was planning on doing the ATF or MMO deal where you put some of the above into the cylinders for a day or so to assist in freeing up piston rings and was also thinking about my next project which is to do a carb rebuild on my old International harvester S120 (1956) - I have used that carb cleaning product by Berrymans which comes in a large can into which you dunk the carb - after about an hour or so it comes out with a lot of residue gone - I was thinking - wouldnt this stuff be the best thing to use to free up rings? It would also probably get rid of any carbon around the valves as well? You could put some in, let it sit then turn engine over (with igniton off) to clear it out then add some other oil to the cylinder to provide lubrication - as this stuff leaves metal pretty clean and dry afterwards.
You would, of course have to put in fresh oil afterwards as I have no idea what this stuff would do to bearings etc.


Lee

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Joe (IN)

08-19-2007 11:55:48
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 Re: Berrymans to free 'stuck' piston rings?? in reply to Lee Holifield, 08-19-2007 01:37:47  
One trick I've seen for cleaning carbon out of an engine is to start it and get it hot and then slowly pour a small stream of water into the carb while it runs at about half throttle. Just enough to cause it to bog and slow down but not enough to make it die. You've got to be CAREFUL doing this. The water will flash to steam during cumbustion and loosen carbon buildup and deposits. Not sure how you'd do it with a sidedraft carb on an N or what affect it would have on stuck rings. Spray bottle, maybe?

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Tom43

08-19-2007 10:17:08
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 Re: Berrymans to free 'stuck' piston rings?? in reply to Lee Holifield, 08-19-2007 01:37:47  
Unfortunately snake oil is not the solution for much of anything whether it be batteries or piston rings. If mechanic in a can really worked there would be no mechanics.



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RJ

08-19-2007 08:29:34
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 Re: Berrymans to free 'stuck' piston rings?? in reply to Lee Holifield, 08-19-2007 01:37:47  
I used a 1 gallon container of carb cleaner for trying to clean up the pistons in my 455 olds powered jet boat, soaked them overnight. The soft stuff came right off, but it didnt touch the heavy deposits or help clean the ring groves at all. so light deposits yes, Carbon no....



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Hobo,NC

08-19-2007 07:56:42
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 Re: Berrymans to free 'stuck' piston rings?? in reply to Lee Holifield, 08-19-2007 01:37:47  
I spec Berrymans is water based and my cause more harm than good. My fear would B it may erode/rust the cylinder walls. It would not b the same as submerging a carb in the cleaner. Their are products available made just to clean carbon deposits inside the valve/cylinder of a engine. Careful what you pour into a cylinder cuzz some of it will find its way into the crank case. I spec carb dip and engine bearings are not compatible. GM makes a good top engine cleaner, Chrysler does also. I have used Techron made by Chevron (fuel injector cleaner) with good results. I would think that Throttle body cleaner sold in the aerosol cans would do a good job. Either way B careful that you do not add enuff to contaminate the engine oil. I would plan on a oil change soon after applying a solvent. I wish it were that EZ to add a chemical to clean carbon off the piston/rings cuzz it sure is a job to cleaning them even out of the engine with a stiff wire brush or ring grove cleaner. A few times I have seen were the carbon was doing a good job of sealing the worn out oil rings, flush it away and then no oil control.

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dan hill

08-19-2007 02:55:38
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 Re: Berrymans to free 'stuck' piston rings?? in reply to Lee Holifield, 08-19-2007 01:37:47  
Bad idea.Rings are stuck with carbon.The rings may be worn out.



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