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Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchfork

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TheOldHokie

07-06-2006 14:57:48




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A co-worker of mine happened to mention that he'd stopped by the local home improvement store this weekend and purchased a "pitchfork". I teasingly provoked him with the comment that Big Orange doesn't sell "pitchforks" only manure forks. A lively debate ensued.

Where I come from (WV/PA) the pitchforks were all 2 tined forks and my Father (who pitched a LOT of hay in his day) was adamant about that. If he asked for a pitchfork and you brought him something with more than two tines on it you would be dispatched to correct your error.

Another friend who was present during this discussion and grew up on a dairy farm in OH (but never pitched a single fork of hay other than to break a bale up into a cattle feeder) said their's had three tines.

I reluctantly acquiesed that three might qualify (I'm sure Dad is rolling in his grave) and we both agreed that anything over three was most definitely not a "pitchfork". What say the Elders here?

TOH

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Mark8NinNS

07-09-2006 07:12:04




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 2 tine fork in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
Still see some 2-tine forks around here in Nova Scotia. Before the age of plastic fish boxes they were used to pitch fish out of boats onto the wharf.



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big jt

07-07-2006 08:53:50




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
In NW ia a two or three tine is a pitch/bundle fork. I think I have only seen two of the two tiners. One was at a sale and I now own that one. That two tine fork is the best thing for pitching bundles I have ever seen.

Four and more light tines is a manure fork.

Four and more heavy tines with D handle is for spuds or some guys like them for roofing demo.

Three or more heavy tines at a right angle to the handle is for ear corn.

jt

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Cargocult

07-07-2006 04:41:39




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
Well, folks, I have spent many hours operating a pitch fork. Mostly loading the manure-spreader and forking hay. Hated it at the time, but it did make me a better person! Ya know..hard farm work builds character, as well as muscles. Something the newfangled TV-addicts will NEVER understand! When I went in the NAVY, back in the Vietnam war era....the farm kids were BORED, while the city kids were overwhelmed by the Physical Training! ( I realize the Navy was NOT the Marine Corps) As a matter of fact, I actaully GAINED WEIGHT in Boot Camp! One of two folks who did! (The other one was a farm kid from the midwest) So, I don't regret them dusty hours forking hay or smelly hours forking cow*it! BUt, I'd hate to do them all over, hehehe. This is interesting thread..thanks 4 starting it!! CC

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ZANE

07-07-2006 04:13:45




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
My 100 year old pitch fork has four thin strong steel tines.

I don't care if they have one tine or forty tines I hope I never have to use one for what it is designed to be used for. (Forking hay)!

I already did my share years ago and it still makes me hot to think about it!

Zane



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Sam#3

07-06-2006 18:39:16




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
Gotta throw my quarters worth in here too. Price has gone up. Used to be two cents.

These are what I saw in my formative years on the farm. Had a lot to do with my change of vocation.

Three tined - bundle fork for pitching bundles
Four tined, narrow - bundle fork

Four tined, wide - hay fork for pitching hay, came in various widths.

Five tines - manure fork for pitching bedding and er ah a cow droppings!

Four or five flat tines, short 'D' handle - digging spuds

The wide forks with various numbers of tines narrowly spaced, both long and short handles - used similar to manure fork but to heavy to 'pitch.'

I just inherited the old farm. Most of them are still there including MY old hay fork.

Mr. Webster says, "A long handled fork that has two or three long somewhat curved prongs . . . .

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Bill(Wis)

07-06-2006 18:13:50




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
All of our "pitchforks" had three tines, no more, no less. We saw a picture of a two tined fork one time. Two tines would also qualify as a "pitchfork". A pitchfork is (was) used to pitch bundles (corn, oats, wheat, rye, barley, etc.) and to pitch hay and straw. A pitchfork would never be used to pitch manure. That took more tines. There were four, five and six tined "manure forks". We preferred the five tined forks for pitching manure. We had cow manure, horse manure and chicken manure to pitch. No pig manure in my day. My grandfather got rid of the pigs in 1914. Smelled bad and that was the year the mortgage was paid off so he didn't need pigs anymore. We've paid cash for everything since. Hope this sheds some light on the subject.

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Lin

07-06-2006 18:11:26




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
I remember in Maine in the 40's 50's having hay pitchforks with long handles and 3 slim tines. I also used a fork with 4 flat tines for digging potatoes, just don't stab them with the fork. This was also called a "Dung fork" by my father because it was used to dig the dried pile of animal crap out from under the barn after a long winter of pushing it into the hole in the barn floor. Also used this fork for digging worms to go fishing with. Also I recently purchased one of these at a local (MA) hardware store for garden tilling.

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Bruce (VA)

07-06-2006 18:03:34




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
All the farming done in my family was in Caroline & Spotsylvania VA. Each fork (and every tool, for that matter) had a specific use & purpose. Everyone of us kids knew that & knew they were tools, not toys. Around here, a pitch fork had 3 tines, a hay fork had 4 tines, a potato fork had four thick, flat tines & a manure fork had at least 5 & sometimes 6 tines & was bent almost like a shovel. And, a grubbing hoe (prounced grubbinho) is what my Yankee wife calls a mattock.

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Carl S in NH

07-06-2006 18:23:42




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 Re: grub hoe in reply to Bruce (VA), 07-06-2006 18:03:34  
Up here in New Hampshire, a VERY Yankee state, I learned to call it simply a grub hoe, if we are indeed talking about the same implement. The thing I've got and have been calling a grub hoe is one flat square ended blade, similar to what you sometimes see on one side of a pickaxe (but I've also seen pickaxes with two pointed ends). It's slightly curved toward the user. I use my grub hoe when I'm digging out around tree roots, or loosening up gravel from a gravel bank to make shoveling it easier.
Don't know nuttin' 'bout pitchforks!
Carl

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Jack-Illinois

07-06-2006 17:21:53




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
Growing up in Illinois in the 40's and 50's with a father that came from the hills of KY, I soon learned that what Dad called something was not always the norm from Central Illinois. To him a pitch fork would have to be long handled. Number of tines didn't matter. We never had a 2 tine one but did have 3, 4 short, 4 long, 5 and one 6 tine that was the manure fork in the barn. It picked up the runny stuff better! Then there was the heavier built one with the 90 degree bend in the tines that the corn shelling man brought with him to rake ear corn into the sheller drag. Yep you guys brought back my old memories again - thanks!

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DaveTx

07-06-2006 16:09:27




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 I count 3 in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
third party image

Looks like 3



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James Rader

07-06-2006 16:06:19




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
Well I aint all that old yet but I have several forks around the place, I have a two tine and three tine all hickory forks. I have a two, a three, a four and a five tine steel forks. Wikpedia says>Link
Pitchforks>Link typically have from 2 to 6 tines and have different lengths and spacing depending on purpose.
I would agree with this, though I prefer to feed with my wooden three prong, muck out the barns with the 5 tine steel, rake the yard with the 4 tine steel (I have a 4 1/2' ironwood handle on this one and I only rake enough to throw to the chickens) and my favorite for transfering loose hay from wagon to barn is my two prong steel fork...
James

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Ken S.

07-06-2006 15:58:51




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
First off I agree that H/D don't sell pitch forks, at least not in Ga.

My uncle, who farmed his whole life in the bluegrass region of Ky. until he passed on in 87' gave me a fork which has three tines. He, as well as all my kin refer to such as a pitch fork

That said, I have seen 4 tine forks that I would consider a pitch fork cause of the long slender tines that aren't suitable for manure or anything heavier than hay.

There are regional differences in tool names however, for instance what is know as a grubbing hoe in Ky., is know as a maddock in Ga.

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Jerry (AL)

07-06-2006 15:42:16




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
Are you old if you can answer here?

Down here in Alabama we used to only see 3 forks on a pitch fork. I have never seen 2 on one. I think I broke the last one when I was sticking carp and gar with it. I baled off the bank on about a 50 pound gar and when the water quit boiling, I was holding the handle.

I remember handling potatoes with a flat forked 4 tine when I was a kid.



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murnga

07-06-2006 15:37:55




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
I remember 4 very well in the late 50's. Removing corn stalks,hay and manure from the stalls in our small barn would have been much easier with a 2.



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Roger in Iowa

07-06-2006 15:28:18




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
A bundle fork has 3 tines.

A barley fork has 4 tines and maybe a different curve to them.

A manure fork had 5 tines.

A silage fork has a bunch of times.

A potato fork has 4 flat times.

Never heard of a two tine fork.

Yours and others may vary.....
Roger in Iowa



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DennyF

07-06-2006 15:21:27




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to TheOldHokie, 07-06-2006 14:57:48  
Going back to my earliest recollections of the early 1950s in rural PA, I'd say three tines. Only two-tiners I've ever seen, were in museums.

Maybe it's a regional thing, with two-tiners bein' more prevalent where excessive cypherin' brought on migraines? ;o)

I know some of my cousins would've been challenged if someone asked 'em to fetch a fork and specified how many tines it needed to have.

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snyder county farm boy

07-06-2006 16:17:33




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to DennyF, 07-06-2006 15:21:27  
The 2-tine is used in these parts of PA is used to load shocks into a thresher



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DennyF

07-06-2006 21:17:17




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 Re: Ancient history 101-How many tines on a pitchf in reply to snyder county farm boy, 07-06-2006 16:17:33  
Probably because Snyder Co. still has lots of Amish, who might buy two-tined forks if they're cheaper than ones with three tines.

I haven't seen a thrashin' machine in operation since my uncle sold his in the late 50s, but suspect there are still some around.

Only place I've seen crops shocked lately, are on that Amish farm along Rt. 15, just below the half falls. I've also seen them using horses and a hayloader to load loose hay.

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