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4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n

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R Wyler

01-16-2005 18:54:18




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Today I got a new 4 ft KK box blade for my 8n. I know it is a little narrower than the tread but I know that I will be able to do more work with it for the simple fact that it is narrower. I read alot of negative remarks about this brand in the IMP alley inlcudeing box blades. I have not used it yet but they look to be heavy built and well designed and this 4 footer should be stronger than the wider ones since the olnly difference is it is smaller. Anyone have any comments on this brand?

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AZglide

01-17-2005 20:01:54




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to R Wyler, 01-16-2005 18:54:18  
Used a 6' King Kutter behind a NAA to dig a three foot deep hole (loading ramp)to load the motorcycles in the pickup not to long ago. Didn't have any problems. Think it will be around and up to the job long after i am gone.



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Neal

01-17-2005 06:05:56




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to R Wyler, 01-16-2005 18:54:18  
I have both a regular and a box blade made by Keen Kutter. Both have been very satisfactory for my needs. I own apartments and need to redo the driveway a couple of times a year and the box blade does a very good job for me. I also have a Meyer snow blade that I put on in the winter in place of my Wagner loader bucket. As others have said, the Keen Kutters will work very well for your needs. I did add 3/16 inch wall square tubing across the top of my regular blade to give it more strength. My NAA will spin the wheels before it will flex the blade.

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souNdguy

01-17-2005 04:32:41




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to R Wyler, 01-16-2005 18:54:18  
While the 4' will work.. you'll eventually want a 5'

I use an ancient OXEN brand 5' onmy N.. I got it at a roadside sale for 100$ It was a tad beat up and had a few owner-welds.. but was otherwise sound. It has dug clay, and pushed maneuer and put out burn piles for 5-6 years now with no indication that it is going to quit.

Lots of people don't like the economy brand equipment like Howse or KK.. but Like another poster said.. for the average homeowner.. it is decent stuff. Most people that break their stuff are trying to work the implement beyond its capabilities.. Box blades aren't bull dozers. Also.. tractors that are big enough not to stall when pulling a full blade that gets hung -will- bend the boxblade... It's a user fault.. not a box blade fault... some people just don't understand that when they get a light duty 6' blade and run it behind their brand new 48 hp diesel, and then whine when it pretzles up after they push piles of dirt and gravel.. and snatch stumps with them...

Sure.. if you want to do that.. don't spend 250$ on a blade.. spend 750$ and get one designed to take punishment.. etc.

Soundguy

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Mike S

01-17-2005 03:49:42




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to R Wyler, 01-16-2005 18:54:18  
King Kutter is a fine brand. While a 4 foot one will work fine, you might want to consider a 5 foot one instead. I was lucky enough to be able to use both before I bought my 5 foot one and I am glad I got the bigger one. Mine is actually 5'6" wide and it just covers the rear tire tracks, so when I grade something, the tread marks are smoothed over. With the smaller one, you will leave 1/2 the tread marks showing. It also let me grade right up close to the house foundation as I was dragging dirt up and smoothing it out. Just something you might think about, it is always your choice. You might actually find a used 5 foot one for less than the price of a the new 4' KK. Mine is an old IMCO brand and it is 30 years old and still has many years service in it.

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DUCK

01-17-2005 01:33:21




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to R Wyler, 01-16-2005 18:54:18  
Opinions are like, well you know--
Vast majority are worth what you paid for them "nothing."
It's your money and their opinion.
Njoy your box blade and I'm sure you will.
DUCK



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Dell (WA)

01-16-2005 23:26:38




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to R Wyler, 01-16-2005 18:54:18  
Wyler..... ...ya didn't do your homework first, didja? You gotta wimpy 4 foot boxblade made for wimpy cat-0 15hp yuppie wannnabee tractors.

Yer 'arrychested 8N will handily handle a 5' boxblade with scarifiers.

TAKERBACK and TRADEITT for a real 5' boxblade before you scrunchitt up. Good tractor implement dealers do that all the time.

There is NOTHING WRONG with King Kutter implements, just the implement buyer..... ..respectfully, Dell

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Steve(OR)

01-16-2005 23:00:07




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to R Wyler, 01-16-2005 18:54:18  
Hey you"ve already bought it so what cha wanna hear - That its no good? Or just trying to assuage your buyers remorse?

I have a KK 66" with 5 rippers and it has done a good job on a 300 foot driveway that I have.

I think it will outlast me for any use that I put it to.



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pitch

01-17-2005 02:47:54




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to Steve(OR), 01-16-2005 23:00:07  
Ok here we go again tool snobs all over.I have a 5' KK and trust me I will destroy my N before I hurt that box blade. Are you a contractor or a homeowner/hobbyfarmer? There is nothin that an N can do with that blade that can't be accomplished. How often are you gonna use it? I bouhgt mine for a particular landscaping project and used the bejesus out of it for about three months almost every day, now it sits and gets hooked up for a couple of hours 4or 5 times a year.
There are folks that I call tool snobs, always need the best and brightest ie: Snapon tools,Stihl saw,Quincy compressor etc. Face it unless you are overladen with money a contractor or a professional you don't need that supposed quality and it most cases it is just plain stupid to spend it for the amount of use the average guy needs these things for. Just do your research and get a good lower end or middle grade tool and you'll do just fine.

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billOH

01-17-2005 08:16:01




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to pitch, 01-17-2005 02:47:54  
Anyone have a good pic of a box blade? I found one in the "Photos" sections, but it isn't very clear.

How is a box blade different/better than a scraper blade? Could you muck out a stall with one of these? I can't tell if it's a scraper, a bucket, or something in between..



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Dean

01-17-2005 12:51:43




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to billOH, 01-17-2005 08:16:01  
Box blades are just what you need for spreading gravel on a road or parking area because they will carry much more material inside than a regular scraper blade will carry in front. Box blades are also good for light landscape leveling in loose soil for the same reason. If you are near Cincinnati, International Farm Machinery in Bethel has a good box blade at a reasonable price. Pick it up yourself and save the dealer markup. Be aware that they sell both standard and HD models.

Dean

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Steve(OR)

01-17-2005 09:20:27




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to billOH, 01-17-2005 08:16:01  
Bill - To me the difference between a scraper blade and a box blade are these:

- A box blade has side plates that contain the material you are moving
- The cutting edge of a box blade has a flat bottom on it to prevent digging too deep (like a sand wedge)
- Box blades often have rippers to loosen the groud you are working.

These feature make a box blade operate more like a wood working plane compared to a scraper blade that is more like a wood scraper or a scoop that is more like a chisel. HTH

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Dell (WA)

01-17-2005 08:58:20




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 Re: 4 ft King Kutter box blade for 8n in reply to billOH, 01-17-2005 08:16:01  
Bill..... ....unlike a rear scraper blade, there is NO ANGLE to a box blade. It is straight ahead pulling. There is no fill and lift like a scoop. And while you could pull stall bedding straight out, I doubt that you'd find a box blade usefull for mucking out stalls. Stop by a tractor dealer and ask to be shown a box blade, gitt some brochures and read'em..... .....respectfully, Dell



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