Well the guy I got my 8N from was really proud that the rear wheels were filled with water. He wouldn't be so proud if he saw what I saw today. I can sandblast and weld repair the rims on the inside and no one will ever see it and the outside will look perfect. My question is can I put tubes in the new 12X28 tires. The old tires were tubeless. We have everything from a JD7610 to a 9n Ford on the farm and not one has water in the wheels. I guess there is a purpose for it but I`ll never do it.
 
(quoted from post at 17:14:35 08/28/18) Well the guy I got my 8N from was really proud that the rear wheels were filled with water. He wouldn't be so proud if he saw what I saw today. I can sandblast and weld repair the rims on the inside and no one will ever see it and the outside will look perfect. My question is can I put tubes in the new 12X28 tires. The old tires were tubeless. We have everything from a JD7610 to a 9n Ford on the farm and not one has water in the wheels. I guess there is a purpose for it but I`ll never do it.

First off, no one puts plain water in tires. Whether or not one loads the tires depends on what one does with the tractor. Loading the tires is done to improve traction and for weight. I have an 8N and a MF202 Workbull. Both tractors have front end loaders on them and both have loaded rear tires. My 8N even has 250# weights on the inside of each rim for more weight.

When you use a front loader, you want those rear wheels to stay on the ground or you will have no steering. My MF202 even has loaded front tires on it.

If you try to pull a stump or something similar, you would appreciate loaded tires. Getting those big lugged rear tires spinning will quickly just dig your rear end down into the dirt.

There is nothing wrong with loading your tires as long as you keep them inspected for any leaks. Leaks will cause rust.
 
(quoted from post at 18:14:35 08/28/18) Well the guy I got my 8N from was really proud that the rear wheels were filled with water. He wouldn't be so proud if he saw what I saw today. I can sandblast and weld repair the rims on the inside and no one will ever see it and the outside will look perfect. My question is can I put tubes in the new 12X28 tires. The old tires were tubeless. We have everything from a JD7610 to a 9n Ford on the farm and not one has water in the wheels. I guess there is a purpose for it but I`ll never do it.
I would never run an 8n without tubes in the ires and I would never run my 8n with a FEL on without weight in the tires. I got two 8ns and one has weight in the tires and the other does not, they both have tubes in them.
 
Caryc. You are wrong about water in rears. I spent 22 years in the tire business. Every darn tractor jocky
that bought southern tractors and brought them north of the Mason Dixon line must have known these things had
water in them. I have gone out with the service truck, below zero and removed tires/rims from the tractor and
took them back to the heated shop. It takes 3 days for an 18.4x30 to thaw out. Skip if you can find heavy
duty radial tubes in your size, I would highly recommend you buy them. The last 15 years or so, bias tubes
have a real tendency to split at the seams. Good luck with your project. If the stuff you have in the tires
is calcium, try not to get it on your shoes, the shoe toes have a tendency to turn up looking like elf shoes.
 
(quoted from post at 18:10:08 08/28/18)
(quoted from post at 17:14:35 08/28/18) Well the guy I got my 8N from was really proud that the rear wheels were filled with water. He wouldn't be so proud if he saw what I saw today. I can sandblast and weld repair the rims on the inside and no one will ever see it and the outside will look perfect. My question is can I put tubes in the new 12X28 tires. The old tires were tubeless. We have everything from a JD7610 to a 9n Ford on the farm and not one has water in the wheels. I guess there is a purpose for it but I`ll never do it.

First off, no one puts plain water in tires. Whether or not one loads the tires depends on what one does with the tractor. Loading the tires is done to improve traction and for weight. I have an 8N and a MF202 Workbull. Both tractors have front end loaders on them and both have loaded rear tires. My 8N even has 250# weights on the inside of each rim for more weight.

When you use a front loader, you want those rear wheels to stay on the ground or you will have no steering. My MF202 even has loaded front tires on it.

If you try to pull a stump or something similar, you would appreciate loaded tires. Getting those big lugged rear tires spinning will quickly just dig your rear end down into the dirt.

There is nothing wrong with loading your tires as long as you keep them inspected for any leaks. Leaks will cause rust.

I have a backhoe and excavator for all of those things
 
(quoted from post at 20:45:42 08/28/18)
(quoted from post at 18:10:08 08/28/18)
(quoted from post at 17:14:35 08/28/18) Well the guy I got my 8N from was really proud that the rear wheels were filled with water. He wouldn't be so proud if he saw what I saw today. I can sandblast and weld repair the rims on the inside and no one will ever see it and the outside will look perfect. My question is can I put tubes in the new 12X28 tires. The old tires were tubeless. We have everything from a JD7610 to a 9n Ford on the farm and not one has water in the wheels. I guess there is a purpose for it but I`ll never do it.

First off, no one puts plain water in tires. Whether or not one loads the tires depends on what one does with the tractor. Loading the tires is done to improve traction and for weight. I have an 8N and a MF202 Workbull. Both tractors have front end loaders on them and both have loaded rear tires. My 8N even has 250# weights on the inside of each rim for more weight.

When you use a front loader, you want those rear wheels to stay on the ground or you will have no steering. My MF202 even has loaded front tires on it.

If you try to pull a stump or something similar, you would appreciate loaded tires. Getting those big lugged rear tires spinning will quickly just dig your rear end down into the dirt.

There is nothing wrong with loading your tires as long as you keep them inspected for any leaks. Leaks will cause rust.

I have a backhoe and excavator for all of those things

Must be nice!
 
Depends, Radial tires don't use tubes, but these old 10/12 x 28 tires for Ford N's should definitely have them. Iron + Water = Rust. That's why I don't condone using windshield wiper fluid or used ant-freeze for ballast. Both may contain some water. I suggest don't use anything if you don't need to.

Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)
 
We have to have them and a D 4 Cat around the farm if we didn?t we
couldn?t keep up with it all. The backhoe we use for loading line into
the spreaders and picking things up. The excavator we use to clean
out the ditches and pond edges, the D4 we mainly use with a root
rake and cutting fire breaks through the timber
 
(quoted from post at 19:05:19 08/28/18) Caryc. You are wrong about water in rears. I spent 22 years in the tire business. Every darn tractor jocky
that bought southern tractors and brought them north of the Mason Dixon line must have known these things had
water in them. I have gone out with the service truck, below zero and removed tires/rims from the tractor and
took them back to the heated shop. It takes 3 days for an 18.4x30 to thaw out. Skip if you can find heavy
duty radial tubes in your size, I would highly recommend you buy them. The last 15 years or so, bias tubes
have a real tendency to split at the seams. Good luck with your project. If the stuff you have in the tires
is calcium, try not to get it on your shoes, the shoe toes have a tendency to turn up looking like elf shoes.

I've had my 8N for over ten years now and I've been a member here for eight years. There have been lots of discussions concerning loaded rear tires in that time and I don't ever remember anyone saying they used plain water in their tires.

That's why I really didn't think anyone did that.
 
Back in the day my grandfather filled his rear tires with plain water. It worked well for what he did in SC.

Given what I have experienced with tires filled with a CaCl2 solution it's not for me - while heavier than plain water it's way too corrosive and something that has to be monitored.

Plain water is an inexpensive fill. Windshield washer fluid appears to be an attractive alternative, although there is a moderate cost involved. I'd love to get a set of wheel weights, but they are hard to come by relatively locally.
 

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