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Ultradog MN

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Well,
It's been a month since I posted about the new concrete slab here.
Now I'm taking a couple of weeks off and will get to building the garage.
I got this far yesterday afternoon and today - working alone. Could have gotten farther but the heat is brutal. Like 90? and 90% so it takes twice the effort to do half the work.
You can see the saltsweat line in the T shirt I wore today.
I'm building the walls on the floor then raising them up with my friend's loader tractor.
The trusses should be here next week.
I plan to be ready for them.
Some of you suggested I make a few updates so here's the first one.
 
Forgot the photos.
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Hmmm....no short cross braces between those studs? Or will those come later after all the walls are squared up with each other?
 
Sway bracing?
That's an old technique from when they still
used boards for the sheathing.
Modern plywood accomplishes the same thing
so the sway bracing isn't done any more.
 
(quoted from post at 17:27:34 08/13/18) Sway bracing?
That's an old technique from when they still
used boards for the sheathing.
Modern plywood accomplishes the same thing
so the sway bracing isn't done any more.

Yeah, I guess with real plywood it would be ok. I wouldn't trust that pressed board stuff though.
 
Could have gotten farther but the heat is brutal. Like 90? and 90% so it takes twice the effort to do half the work.

Then there is the " I ain't 30 years old any more" to factor in :cry: On the bright side , I could not afford a nail gun in my 20's but after years of paying for good tools I can do the job in less time with less effort :wink: Won't be long before it is 20 degrees with a 20 mph wind . I think you'll be alright by then .
 
Looks good to me!
Are you planning on one two-car-wide overhead door?
Any plans for heating it?
 
OUTLETS... Lots of OUTLETS.... and shag some 220 around while you're in there... a nice new breaker box... AMPS are your friend :) :) If you have an electrician do it, the minimum is one light, one switch and one outlet. Do the rest yourself... after he is done and gone and the permit is signed off.

A couple old ceiling fans will do a great job of drying the snow/salt slop off the floor... if you have a bit of heat to go with it...

While a garage will never be *done*, it won't be long and you'll be having so much fun that Momma will have to ring the buzzer to get you back in the house!! :)

I'll be passing through in less than two weeks...would love to spend a week helping... but there's too many miles to drive :-(
As you can see, I have no opinion on this!!!!
 
Two doors. Shop door is 12 wide 8 high.
Wife's stall gets 8x8 door.
She gets a 12x 20 stall closest to the
house. She's paying for it all so I had to
give her enough to park her car.
I get 18x33 plus 12x12 behind her stall for
an office, man parlor.
Not big enough but the City only lets you
have 1000 sq ft :( This is 990'
Have a 65K btu hi efficiency NG furnace. Way
oversized for just for the office but it
might also take the chill off my side in
winter.
Insulation, interior walls (except for
office) won't happen this year but I've been
wrenching on gravel in open air for 3 years
now so even a roof will be welcome.
 

Dawg that's nice man real nice... I can tell'ya 90 with 90% humility is a killer... We get more than out fair share... I did not see were you are adding AC :wink: I run my AC about 60 days out of the year its worth every penny I paid for it.. I have a nice bathroom in the shop but men had ratter go pea out back :shock:
 
(quoted from post at 20:38:24 08/13/18)
(quoted from post at 17:27:34 08/13/18) Sway bracing?
That's an old technique from when they still
used boards for the sheathing.
Modern plywood accomplishes the same thing
so the sway bracing isn't done any more.

Yeah, I guess with real plywood it would be ok. I wouldn't trust that pressed board stuff though.

That is exactly what "old timers" said about laminated plywood when it first appeared on the market. Why guess when there are people that research this stuff for a living. Oriented strand board (OSB) has been around for 30+ years and it's performance characteristics have been extensively studied. As a result there is an engineering reason "that press board stuff" is preferred and it is not just lower cost. Consider this analysis of the performance characteristics of OSB from the Building Construction and Technology Department at UMass:

[i:07542938ac][color=blue:07542938ac]Wood fiber is used more efficiently in osb. Osb is stronger than plywood in shear. Shear values, through its thickness, are about 2 times greater than plywood.This is one of the reasons osb is used for webs of wooden I-joists. However, nail-holding ability controls performance in shear wall applications[/color:07542938ac][/i:07542938ac]

So how about that nail holding in shear wall disclaimer? From that same BCT UMass report:

[i:07542938ac][color=blue:07542938ac]Professor Poo Chow, a researcher at the University of Illinois, studied the withdrawal and head pull-through performance of nails and staples in plywood, waferboard and osb. Chow found that in both dry and 6-cycle aged tests: osb and waferboard performed equal to or better than CD-grade plywood. The results of another independent study conducted by Raymond LaTona at the Weyerhauser Technology Center in Tacoma also showed that withdrawal strengths in osb and plywood are the same. ”[/color:07542938ac][/i:07542938ac]

That report is 15 years old and conducted 15 years after OSB first appeared on the market so there were plenty of real life field use results to draw from. Today, 30 years after it's invention by Elmendorf Manufacturing, OSB has replaced laminated plywood as the modern standard for structural wood sheathing in both commercial and residential construction. It works as well or better as laminated plywood sheathing in just about every application and costs less.

TOH
 
(quoted from post at 07:00:31 08/14/18)
I think that CaryC is confusing fire stops with braces.

No I'm not. I was talking about the short horizontal 2 X 4 bracing between the studs. Or as someone said "beer can holders".
 
(quoted from post at 12:16:32 08/14/18)
(quoted from post at 07:00:31 08/14/18)
I think that CaryC is confusing fire stops with braces.

No I'm not. I was talking about the short horizontal 2 X 4 bracing between the studs. Or as someone said "beer can holders".

Those are not structural braces - they are fire blocks. Their purpose is to create an oxygen starved space to prevent the rapid vertical movement of flames and hot gases in the event of a fire and slow the speed at which the fire spreads. Local code requirements for fire blocks and even more resistant fire stops vary greatly by jurisdiction. In most places it is unlikely a single floor detached garage would be required to have fire blocks. The one just built by my neighbor and inspected by the local authorities did not.

TOH

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The fire blocking is not requured here.
In the photo you cab see the upper roof line of the house. I built that addition 2 years ago and no blocking was required.
That's not to say they don't have a gazillion darned codes here.
Yikes!
I have a good inspector though. He doesn't cut me any slack on the codes but he trusts me and if I say I will do thus or such he knows I will do it.
It's all OSB here by the way. You don't see much plywood in framing any more.
Here is a new requirement for the garage door end of garages here.
They get imbedded in the perimeter footing and tie into the framing on the ends of the doors.
They are to keep the door end from wracking or leaning. 3" wide, 24" tall and and about 14 ga steel
I had to put 8 of them in.
PIA!!
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Have just recently been putting down a new kitchen subfloor over the original beams with some new beams added in. I am using Adv...ech. Which is supposed to be the best. Those door braces are no doubt a good idea but they would never stand up to some of the stuff that I clobber my door frames with.
 
(quoted from post at 09:36:30 08/14/18)
(quoted from post at 12:16:32 08/14/18)
(quoted from post at 07:00:31 08/14/18)
I think that CaryC is confusing fire stops with braces.

No I'm not. I was talking about the short horizontal 2 X 4 bracing between the studs. Or as someone said "beer can holders".

Those are not structural braces - they are fire blocks. Their purpose is to create an oxygen starved space to prevent the rapid vertical movement of flames and hot gases in the event of a fire and slow the speed at which the fire spreads. Local code requirements for fire blocks and even more resistant fire stops vary greatly by jurisdiction. In most places it is unlikely a single floor detached garage would be required to have fire blocks. The one just built by my neighbor and inspected by the local authorities did not.

TOH

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Wow...ok, I learned something new today :wink: Never heard that before.
 

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