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Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals

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Milo12565

08-10-2018 05:17:54




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Hey guys...brand spanking new to the world of old Ford tractors and this forum.

I have, however been a hardcore gearhead and auto mechanic for 40+ years so I do have some grease under my nails.

Anyway, I have inherited my grandfather's 1948 8N and am in the process of reviving it. I am having issues with the front wheel bearing grease seals. I ordered wheel bearing kits and the seals that came with them aren't right. They dont even fit inside the hubs (too small). I contacted the seller with exact dimensions of my spindle and hubs and he says they sound like NAA stuff.

I know this is a 1948 model because this tractor has been in the family since new.

Fast forward...I've researched and I cant seem to find a seal with the correct ID Im looking for which would fit a 1.562" shoulder on the spindle. Am I thinking wrong? Does a tractor seal not ride directly on the spindle shoulder like a car?

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Milo12565

08-10-2018 21:00:36




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
I appreciate your input. I'm leaving the hubs and wheels as-is...they've been on it as long as I can remember.

I'm bringing it back to life to use so I'm not concerned with concourse correctness.



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Royse

08-10-2018 20:47:53




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
"I checked date codes on the hubs and they were cast in 1944...so that would be for the 2N correct?"

Yes, that would be correct. No worries, they will work fine.
If you changed them now you would have to get different rims too.

Probably more important to focus on bringing it back to life.



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Milo12565

08-10-2018 20:37:52




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
Forget my last statement...I was possibly mistaken.

I talked with my Dad and he's not sure if there ever was a hub swap. I checked date codes on the hubs and they were cast in 1944...so that would be for the 2N correct?

I know when it came to Ford cars, it was common for them to use up last year model's parts early in a build run. Is there any chance that they did the same with tractors?

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Milo12565

08-10-2018 20:22:01




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Your tractor is a beauty.
I ran the date codes on mine and it was built in February 1948...fairly early 8N. Ford probably still had 2N parts left or didn't change wheel designs until after my tractor was built. I know the life history of this one and those are the wheels and hubs it was born with.



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Royse

08-10-2018 19:57:22




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
Welcome to the forum Milo.

I would agree with your assessment, it's an early 8N. '48~49.

Those front hubs are not 8N though. They are earlier 9N/2N hubs.

I don't believe that makes a difference on your seals, but the bolt

pattern on the 8N hubs and rims were 6 bolt and far smaller.

8N I just finished.


9N 16 inch rims


My old 9N. Notice the rear rim/hub difference from an 8N.

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Milo12565

08-10-2018 19:44:15




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Thanks for the clarification



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JMOR

08-10-2018 19:16:44




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
" Am I thinking wrong? Does a tractor seal not ride directly on the spindle shoulder like a car?" You are thinking wrong. Shawn Wallace gave you the answer.



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Milo12565

08-10-2018 18:52:56




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Milo12565

08-10-2018 18:43:31




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Milo12565

08-10-2018 18:39:04




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Milo12565

08-10-2018 18:22:39




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I'm dead sure it isn't a Jubilee. Serial# 8N50608 Engine cast date B28. Although the tractor has been around longer than I have (I'm 52) it's been part of the family all my life and my dad is still alive and remembers when his dad bought it.



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Jim L WA

08-10-2018 10:23:50




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
Hi Milo, welcome to our world of old Ford tractors. I have a 2N and a NAA. Both use the same seal part number. See my post below, with the subject, "Question for Bruce or anyone". Where did you get the bearing kit from?



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Shaun Wallace

08-10-2018 06:25:20




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
The seal NAA 1190 rubs on face of spindle not the round like autos do. The 202784 seal goes on spindle with lip to spindle. It keeps dirt out not grease in.



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pinball

08-10-2018 06:05:22




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 Re: Issue with correct front wheel bearing seals in reply to Milo12565, 08-10-2018 05:17:54  
I think you need to put the serial number on here and a photo of it. I bought a 52 8n from a friend he said he dad bought it new in 52. well it was a 50 model. when I told him that he said I was wrong. does it have a round medallion on the front. people here can look at a photo and tell you what it is. you can look up the serial number here on this site tp tell you what it is. Most parts people will tell you to get the serial number before ordering parts. look on the engine left side behind the oil filter for an 8n. naa look right behind the starter on the housing. good luck. also if you have the serial number there is a place in mexico Missouri called walts tractors. they sell new parts for the old ford tractors, extremely knowledgeable, very good prices and the ship all over the usa. They run there business on there farm. you can find there number on the net. good luck

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