Finally finished the 8N (lots of pics)

Royse

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Before and afters, some during.
Not a 100% restoration, but close enough for the current owner. (Me)
Pictures of the rebuilt engine in [b:f1846434c2]this YT thread[/b:f1846434c2]

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Looks great other than that dust boot looks like its in a jam... Are you sure you drove the ware plate over the fat part of the stud..
 
(quoted from post at 15:34:13 08/05/18)
Looks great other than that dust boot looks like its in a jam... Are you sure you drove the ware plate over the fat part of the stud..
Yep, I'm sure I did. The jam you're seeing is because I connected
the drag link to the steering arm with the steering turned.
When I straightened the wheel, the leather twisted a bit.
Note the plier tooth marks on the inner metal ring?
I made those when I untwisted it.
Stupid mistake, but not worth disassembling it to fix at this point.
 
Thanks Henry. I kept the JD in the precleaner too.
Partially to annoy my nephew who is a JD fan.
All it does is sit and spin and get dirty. ;)

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(quoted from post at 18:30:30 08/05/18) Sweet! I see your precleaner has already collected some trash.
Indeed it has! LOL Kirk, Clifford, thanks for the comments!

Grinderhead, it looks too good to use, but as my grandfather used to tell
me, "if it's too good to use, it's too good to have". So it will get used!
 
You can be very proud of such a great tractor!!!!. great work, What brand of tires and the size do have on your 8N?. BobV
 
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Lookin' Great bud!!!!
Now put it back to work. :wink:

AND.....BTW.....don't let those sleave bangers get away....I might be needing them back in short order.
Prices' for me to get a FEL machine is starting to TIC me off, so, I've got my eyes peeled for another usable 'N' with a loader on it, to use for a winter snow loader. Be cheaper to do THAT, vrs. paying through the nose for a bigger tractor.
These guys are NUTS if they think I'm gonna give them 4 grand $ plus, for something I'm just gonna use to pile snow with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

GB :twisted: [/i:fc75960a55][/b:fc75960a55]
 
(quoted from post at 01:42:12 08/06/18)
(quoted from post at 15:34:13 08/05/18)
Looks great other than that dust boot looks like its in a jam... Are you sure you drove the ware plate over the fat part of the stud..
Yep, I'm sure I did. The jam you're seeing is because I connected
the drag link to the steering arm with the steering turned.
When I straightened the wheel, the leather twisted a bit.
Note the plier tooth marks on the inner metal ring?
I made those when I untwisted it.
Stupid mistake, but not worth disassembling it to fix at this point.

Humm for those that dunno the ware plate is spose to float don't matter were the steering arm is in fact you could rotate the arm 360 it should not twist the boot... It took me awhile to get it :oops:
 
Thanks BobV, the fronts are new BKT 4 x 19's, the rears are nearly
new 11.2 x 28 Firestone Field and Roads that I bought off CL.
 
(quoted from post at 21:46:24 08/05/18)
(quoted from post at 01:42:12 08/06/18)
(quoted from post at 15:34:13 08/05/18)
Looks great other than that dust boot looks like its in a jam... Are you sure you drove the ware plate over the fat part of the stud..
Yep, I'm sure I did. The jam you're seeing is because I connected
the drag link to the steering arm with the steering turned.
When I straightened the wheel, the leather twisted a bit.
Note the plier tooth marks on the inner metal ring?
I made those when I untwisted it.
Stupid mistake, but not worth disassembling it to fix at this point.
Humm for those that dunno the ware plate is spose to float don't matter were the steering arm is in fact you could rotate the arm 360 it should not twist the boot... It took me awhile to get it :oops:
No way that's going to happen Hobo. Show me a video.
 
(quoted from post at 21:29:13 08/05/18) What paint did you use? The two shades look
pretty accurate.
Thanks Jason, the paint is Tisco made by Van Sickle sold here.
Ford medium gray TP240 and Vermillion red TP2822.
I keep thinking I want to try the TP245 gray, but I haven't yet.
 
(quoted from post at 21:27:58 08/05/18) Beautiful job as usual Royse. Which implement gets hooked to this one?
Dang it Scott, now I gotta go buy a new implement!
I'll tell Joan it was your fault! ;)

Kidding of course. This one will have the york rake on it leveling the
driveway later this week and probably the plow and disk for the
garden next spring. It is also the test platform for the carbs I rebuild.
 
The Fumes off the john Deere is what keep the tractor running. Do not remove. I have 2 Fords 8N and a 640 good tractors, but my blood runs green and yellow. No harm intended. Thank you
 
"Fantastic change!"

I knew you'd recognize it John. Thanks for selling it to me!
 
"The Fumes off the john Deere is what keep the tractor running."

Yeah, those JD's do put off a lot of fumes! ;)
When my dad bought his farm it came with a two cylinder JD.
I still have it, still work it, still love it.
So I don't mind a little ribbing between the brands.
I also own Farmalls, Fergusons, a Case, etc.
 
"A keeper or off to the stockyards?"

Plan is to keep it Tim. Too much money in it to sell it.
But then, I said that about Krispy too and it sold easily.
 

Also look how narrow the boot is its not spread out like yours. Grease will push the plate snug to the tapper and still allow the plate to move free...
 
Great Job Lawson. Wondered what you were working on, been kinda quiet. Can you give those of us that don't know 3 or 4 sentences on what the Sherman does. I keep seeing the reference implying it's a pretty fancy add, but no idea what it does.
 
Those "original" boots would be junk to me. They've been painted.
Here's a picture at a better angle for you.

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Thanks Allen.

There are several types of Sherman auxiliary transmissions.
Plus a few other brands that were similar and some different.

The most common Sherman is probably the Step-Up transmission.
It is basically a Hi-Lo range added in front of the original trans.
On an 8N, that will give you 8 forward speeds and 2 reverse
speeds. The normal range and a range that is faster than that.
(like an 8N reverse isn't fast enough already?)
On a 9N/2N with the three speed trans, 6 forward, 2 reverse.

Sticking strictly to the Shermans, there was also a Step-down.
This is probably one of the more rare Shermans, step down only.
On an 8N, again, 8 forward speeds and two reverses, but the
other speeds are slower ground speeds than the original.

The Sherman combination in this tractor has both step-up and
step-down plus the original direct drive gearing giving it twelve
forward speeds and three reverse speeds.

As with any auxiliary transmission placed in front of the original,
it also changes the PTO speed. So having a Sherman combo or
step down doesn't really make it much more helpful for, say,
running a rototiller but you have way more options for ground speed.

And I didn't even touch on the Sherman reverser, the Everett
trencher or the Howards etc.
Here's a picture of a Hupp auxiliary I had. It was also a step-up.
Essentially the same as a Sherman step up, but with the handle
on the opposite side. This particular transmission had, at one
time or another, had both a Hupp and a Sherman installed based
on the holes cut into the sides. At different times, of course.

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You went to a great deal of effort to get original rear wheels for this project.

I have an 8n I'm restoring. When I was little it had box style wheels on it. They of course succumbed to calcium chloride.
I'd like to benefit from your work. Would you answer a couple of questions for me?

1. Are there reproduction box style wheels wheels available?

2. What are the dimensions of the box?

3. Where is it located on the rim?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
To the best of my knowledge, they are not available after market.
The "hat" rims as we call them were original through the 1954 NAA.
As were the flat, not scalloped, center disks.
I find good used ones at flea markets and tractor shows now and then.
They're usually between $100 and $150 depending on condition.
New, cheap aftermarkets can be less if you're not looking for originality.
 
Royse ,Lookin Good ole buddy,and all most 50 LBS of oil pressure at a tick above an idle to! Great Job!
 
Thanks Den! I rebuilt the engine in the process. It's a good old tractor.
I have a new-to-me 1939 (SN2202) and 1940 that I hope to get to this year.
But I have two new-to-me houses too, so they may take precedence.
 
Btzj02, thank you! I used that tractor again Wednesday evening.
Still working as it should!
 

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