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grayrider

07-10-2018 19:33:32




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Not mine, found this pic on the internet. Sure would like to have a non running old N Ford on steel wheels like this one for yard art....




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WW2N

07-12-2018 02:34:45




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to grayrider, 07-10-2018 19:33:32  
Im with Tim, UDog look at it this way all Ns are over 60+ yrs old most have been abused and worked like a borrowed mule over the yrs and lucky to see a oil change grease gun or well filtered air then somebody gets thoses Ns comes here for help and seems like lots of fixen goin on but very few major thing go wrong. When someone brings an N back and up to snuff and keeps it maintained theres very little trouble. I read the other day 50% of N s are still running tractors today and not counting 1% lost to accidents 49% of the rest would still be running if not for complete mistreatment and lack of simple maintenance. I have a 43 2N that was a work tractor and never put a wrench on it in 40+ yrs except for the 4 mag rebuilds and regular maintenance. Its retired now and is my trailer Queen.

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Tim PloughNman Daley

07-11-2018 04:37:54




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to grayrider, 07-10-2018 19:33:32  
Those aren't the original FORD steel wheels. The rears maybe, but the centers are not. The fronts definitely not Ford. Any Ford capable of running should be used as such IMHO. Use an old FORDSON for yard art. The cobbled extra coil or whatever that is only proves many 12V jobs are done poorly.

Tim Daley(MI)



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Ultradog MN

07-11-2018 20:00:29




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to Tim PloughNman Daley, 07-11-2018 04:37:54  
"only proves many 12V jobs are done poorly."

Based on that logic one might say that Ns are poorly built tractors.
Just look at the endless problems people have with them on this board.
Day in, year out it's the same old stuff about how someone's tractor won't run or charge or the lift doesn't work, etc, etc.
As for using an N for yard art:
I think the general consensus here is if it's your tractor you may do with it as you please. Run it, restore it, part it out or use it for yard art.
To me the yard art is actually preferable to dropping a V8 in one.

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Tim PloughNman Daley

07-12-2018 02:22:35




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to Ultradog MN, 07-11-2018 20:00:29  
Your statement isn't logical. How does a 12V switch job make the N a 'poorly built' tractor? The 'endless' problems I see here everyday are 99.98% due to poorly done 12V jobs. No doubt many 6V systems are wired incorrectly as well, but the daily posts here almost always are from a cobbled up 12V job. That is the point and the facts can't be refuted. You can do anything you want -it's your tractor, I merely suggested if it or any model for that matter is capable of running, why waste it as yard art? You really don't see very many Fords as yard art anyway because they are all out working still. The ones around here are Olivers, Farmalls, and John Deeres.

Tim Daley(MI)

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Ultradog MN

07-12-2018 04:04:35




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to Tim PloughNman Daley, 07-12-2018 02:22:35  
You wrote:
"only proves many 12V jobs are done poorly."

I replied: "Based on that logic one might say that Ns are poorly built tractors.
Just look at the endless problems people have with them on this board."

I was replying to hyperbole with hyperbole.

So you double down with more hyperbole:

"The 'endless' problems I see here everyday are 99.98% due to poorly done 12V jobs"

We both know None of the 3 quoted statements above are true.

Ns have problems because they are old and were ill maintained.
As to the electrical problems we see here I would say they are equally divided between 6 and 12 volts.
The two electrical problems currently on page one happen to both be on 6V tractors.
The rest of the problems we see are generally related to carb or hyd issues, rear wheel seals leaking, no brakes, stuck clutches, low oil pressure, head gaskets leaking, etc which have nothing to do with electrical.

And lest you forget, most of these tractors get converted because of problems with the original 6V system in the first place.
To get the tractor running again many people conclude that a conversion is the easiest and cheapest way to do it.
Then they botch the job.
You implied that the tractor in the photo became yard art because of a badly done conversion. You also frequently state that most electrical problems are due to badly done conversions.
I called you out because we can not know why that tractor died and because of your claim that conversions are usually (99.98%) the problem and never the solution.

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WW2N

07-12-2018 13:21:00




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to Ultradog MN, 07-12-2018 04:04:35  
Wrong



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Ultradog MN

07-12-2018 17:03:12




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to WW2N, 07-12-2018 13:21:00  
Now what did I do?
Wink.



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WW2N

07-12-2018 22:27:58




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to Ultradog MN, 07-12-2018 17:03:12  
your a card ud



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duey

07-11-2018 09:36:09




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to Tim PloughNman Daley, 07-11-2018 04:37:54  
Tim, you're you're pretty negative about lots of things.... Not enough to do?!?! Sheesh.



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grayrider

07-10-2018 19:35:20




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 Re: N on steel wheels in reply to grayrider, 07-10-2018 19:33:32  
Check out the coil upgrade, haha..



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