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134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal!

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ZANE

03-26-2000 07:42:32




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Went to an auction yesterday for a construction outfit that is downsizing. I bought an engine that was the power unit on an old tar spreader. The owner told me that they had just rebuilt it last year and never could get the pump on the spreader to turn. Seems he didn't know you have to build a fire under them when they have sat for years.
Any way I bought the engine and yesterday took it off the truck and put it on a pallett and hooked up a battery, hit the starter and it cracked right up and ran like a Singer sewing machine.Now I am looking for a tractor to put it in that needs and engine and is reasonably pricedd. If any of you know of such I would apreciate it if you would inform me. If I can find a tractor in need of an engine and manage to buy it I plan to sell my 504 IH tractor. It has more horse power than the Ford but is just bigger than I need and besides I want the a Ford tractor. The engine will fit in the NAA, 600, 601, and the 4 cylinder 200. It will also fit the 800 tractors for that matter since the only difference is the cubic inches or diesel.

I also bought a large old timer clam shell bucket and a big old 2+ yard dragline bucket and an old asphalt tag along spreader. I have them all neatly stacked on my equipment trailer and intend to take them to the junk yard tomorrow morning.

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Hilltopper

03-26-2000 11:17:31




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 Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal! in reply to ZANE, 03-26-2000 07:42:32  
Speaking of engines, did Ford use an engine in the little Mustangs made in the eighties that was used in tractors? I think it was 174 0r 200 cubic inches. The valve covers as I recall were almost, if not identical.



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Many are possible

03-26-2000 20:09:50




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 Re: Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal! in reply to Hilltopper, 03-26-2000 11:17:31  
Over the years Ford seems to have used about all their engines as "industrial engines". Then, it gets worse when you see equipment that uses plain old passenger car and pickup engines.

The 4 banger, cam over, engine common in the Pinto and Mustang II was used in many "industrial engine" applications. Clark used the 300" six with C-6 auto in airfield tugs.

Gordon-Smith, Bowling Green, KY, made a spl. head for one side of the 302 V-8 to create a high output air compressor. They'd been doing that since Model A Ford days. I've heard of 'em for the Model T engine but never seen one.

Man, when you dig into Ford and "industrial engines" you all done poked a big conversations and arguments tar baby! Grins, IHank

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Marshall Rimland

12-04-2000 18:44:57




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 Re: Re: Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal! in reply to Many are possible, 03-26-2000 20:09:50  
I recently bought a Hesse Hornet air compressor
wich uses a Jeep flat head 4 cyl engine.

I'm looking for any available info or links in
it's regard.

Please help if you can.

Thanks

Marshall


The old "Air Bag" is snug and warm in my basement after being alone and
neglected
for too many years. After blowing away the dirt, dust and crud, he
still looks dirty.
Well ya hafta loveum anyway.

His name tag reads: Hesse Hornet Hess Corporation Division Hess Carriage Co. Kansas City MO-----Dover NJ

Engine plate reads: Kaiser Jeep Corp. Jeep Industrial Engine Model CJ 3A Engine Assembly # 913102 Serial # R3J-17777 4B

Chassis plate reads: Hesse Hornet Model "H" Serial # 9 1707 5 Idle speed 850 RPM Pumping speed 2200 RPM

I'm hoping at least one of you can make more sense out of the above,
than I can.
After doing a mild web search, I found very little. Apparently there is
still a Hesse
Corporation in Kansas City MO.

He has a heavier fly wheel to make up for having to fire on just two
cylinders and
his idle speed is increased from 600 to 850 RPM.

His head is cast with the words: Hesse Carriage Co. and the head is the
feature that sets him apart from the run of the mill L-134 (see poor
diagram attached).

Cylinders 1&4 fire engine.Cylinders 2&3 are used to compress air.

Dimensions: W-20.5" L-31" H-32" WT-heavy

His stance is strong and proud with a solid chassis.

Thanks.

Marshall #10284

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BOB HITCHCOCK

01-07-2006 13:28:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, in reply to Marshall Rimland, 12-04-2000 18:44:57  
I TOO HAVE ONE THAT WAS RUNNING WHEN IT WAS PARKED BEHIND THE GARAGE 15 YEARS AGO, WANT TO BUY ANOTHER?



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Carey

01-05-2002 19:30:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal! in reply to Marshall Rimland, 12-04-2000 18:44:57  
This message is to Marshall- I have recently acquired a Hesse Hornet and am looking for information concerning rarity and value as an antique. I need the engine for a jeep restoration, but don't want to ruin something that might be more valuable to someone else. I would appreciate any information you can share. Thanks. -Slowpoke500@msn.com



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Carey

01-05-2002 19:29:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal! in reply to Marshall Rimland, 12-04-2000 18:44:57  
This message is to Marshall- I have recently acquired a Hesse Hornet and am looking for information concerning rarity and value as an antique. I need the engine for a jeep restoration, but don't want to ruin something that might be more valuable to someone else. I would appreciate any information you can share. Thanks. -Slowpoke500@msn.com



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Cy (OHTN)

03-29-2000 20:49:26




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 Re: Re: Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal! in reply to Many are possible, 03-26-2000 20:09:50  
Dear Hilltoper. A few years ago i made a delivery in Dyersville, Tn. and while laid over i went to the Dixie Gun works store and display there. Off to the side they had an old auto museum with all kinds of local things related to autos and engines both gas and steam. Really neat because it was a hands on kind of thing. You couuld blow the horns and play with and run some of the steam machines albeit with air presure. Any way they had a front end of a car that was made from an A i belive that had its frame cut in half in the vicinity of the doors and bent together and a trailer hitch welded on. The engine had been converted to a two cylinder with a two cylinder air compressor. Every thing from the dash board forward to the front bumper was still there.
It must have looked real strange in its day being towed backwards but it sure made a lot of sense. I have no conection with museum but do recomend it to any one interested in motors,tractors or autos.

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Rick (KS)

03-26-2000 15:38:35




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 Re: Re: 134 Cubic inch industrial engine, A steal! in reply to Hilltopper, 03-26-2000 11:17:31  
It's been a long long time ago but I believe my 66 Mustang had a 200 ci six in it. Burned more oil than gas too but I was too young to care at the time.



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