Oh - so that's how the choke is supposed to work !!

I am embarrassed to admit that it has taken me 18 years to figure out how the choke is supposed to work on my 48 8N :( :(

I bought the tractor in 2000 and while it always ran well during the summer, starting it in the cold was a real problem. In the 30's it was difficult to start, in the 20's it was very difficult to start, and forget it below 20 degrees.

When I could get it started in those cooler temps it would stumble and fire on just 1 or 2 cylinders for a while then then finally settle down and smooth out.

For years I have tried to figure out the problem, but I never made any progress on finding a solution.

Yesterday I got frustrated and once again started looking around when I noticed that when I pulled the choke knob all the way out the choke arm on the carb was only 1/2 closed at about 45 degrees up from horizontal.

Further examination showed the the rod between the choke knob and the carb was bent and twisted in a myriad of different contortions such that it got caught on the oil Tee at the back of the block. It was a simple matter to bend it somewhat straight so that I could close the choke all the way, which resulted in the knob traveling twice as far from the dash !!

This morning it was 30 degrees out and with the ability to use all of the choke my 8N fired right up without any doubt whatsoever. There was no stumbling or coughing, it just fired up and held a nice solid idle.

If only I had figured that out 18 years ago !!!
 
(quoted from post at 13:34:52 03/17/18) I am embarrassed to admit that it has taken me 18 years to figure out how the choke is supposed to work on my 48 8N :( :(

I bought the tractor in 2000 and while it always ran well during the summer, starting it in the cold was a real problem. In the 30's it was difficult to start, in the 20's it was very difficult to start, and forget it below 20 degrees.

When I could get it started in those cooler temps it would stumble and fire on just 1 or 2 cylinders for a while then then finally settle down and smooth out.

For years I have tried to figure out the problem, but I never made any progress on finding a solution.

Yesterday I got frustrated and once again started looking around when I noticed that when I pulled the choke knob all the way out the choke arm on the carb was only 1/2 closed at about 45 degrees up from horizontal.

Further examination showed the the rod between the choke knob and the carb was bent and twisted in a myriad of different contortions such that it got caught on the oil Tee at the back of the block. It was a simple matter to bend it somewhat straight so that I could close the choke all the way, which resulted in the knob traveling twice as far from the dash !!

This morning it was 30 degrees out and with the ability to use all of the choke my 8N fired right up without any doubt whatsoever. There was no stumbling or coughing, it just fired up and held a nice solid idle.

If only I had figured that out 18 years ago !!!

Sorry, I just can't resist this.

Better Late Than Never :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 13:49:27 03/17/18)

Sorry, I just can't resist this.

Better Late Than Never :wink:

I completely agree !!

I do have a question. The way my choke used to be it would stay where ever I set it due to the rod rubbing on various things. Now, when I let go of the knob it immediately springs back. Is that the way it's supposed to be ? Is the intent that the operator has to hold the choke in position until it's no longer needed ?
 
(quoted from post at 13:58:37 03/17/18)
(quoted from post at 13:49:27 03/17/18)

Sorry, I just can't resist this.

Better Late Than Never :wink:

I completely agree !!

I do have a question. The way my choke used to be it would stay where ever I set it due to the rod rubbing on various things. Now, when I let go of the knob it immediately springs back. Is that the way it's supposed to be ? Is the intent that the operator has to hold the choke in position until it's no longer needed ?

Yes, that's the way it normally works. If you need it out a little longer and don't want to hold it, just keep an alligator clip handy somewhere. pull the choke out and snap the clip on the rod to keep it from pulling back in.
 
Yes. And, isn't it amazing that after all of these years, with many hands having driven and/or worked on that tractor with unknown
skill levels and various abuses, that the darn things still want to work?
 
Yes, let go of the knob and the choke opens completely. I keep a
cloths pin in the tool box to clip on the rod to hold it
partially on till it warms up.
 
Glad you got the choke rod straightened out. (literally)
Yes, the choke is spring loaded open as it is only needed to start.
If you need it more than that or a few seconds after starting during
cold weather, there is something amiss. I'm in Michigan and I never
have to prop my choke rod out with a clothespin or anything else.
 
(quoted from post at 17:15:11 03/17/18) Glad you got the choke rod straightened out. (literally)
Yes, the choke is spring loaded open as it is only needed to start.
If you need it more than that or a few seconds after starting during
cold weather, there is something amiss. I'm in Michigan and I never
have to prop my choke rod out with a clothespin or anything else.

I don't either, now that I've had my carburetor rebuilt. :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 20:17:18 03/17/18)
(quoted from post at 17:15:11 03/17/18) Glad you got the choke rod straightened out. (literally)
Yes, the choke is spring loaded open as it is only needed to start.
If you need it more than that or a few seconds after starting during
cold weather, there is something amiss. I'm in Michigan and I never
have to prop my choke rod out with a clothespin or anything else.

I don't either, now that I've had my carburetor rebuilt. :wink:
Glad to hear its still working well for you Cary! :)
 

i just let go of the knob. i figure if it's cold enough to need extra choke, it violates our gentlemen's agreement, and i should just go inside where it's heated and leave the N alone :)
 
"if it's cold enough to need extra choke, it violates our gentlemen's agreement, and i should just go inside where it's heated"

Some people got it like that, I hope to get there some day! ;)
 

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