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FordNMan

02-12-2018 20:53:17




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Hi I'm new to the forum and am seeking some advice. I have an 8n that I want to soup up for a pulling/show tractor. I want to put in bigger pistons, valves, shave head and block, stroke the cam and crank and put on a bigger carb. I'm in Wisconsin and I'm trying to find an engine shop in WI, MN, or IA that will do the engine for me. If anybody knows of an engine shop that soups up N's let me know. I also am looking for another N to buy while my engine is being built. Anything under 1000 as long as it runs (doesn't have to be pretty) and is in Wisconsin or west Minnesota. If you have one to sell contact me @ farmwaydevin40@gmail.com

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golfcartman

02-14-2018 06:07:28




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  

Here is you one ready to go. 8n v8 302 engine. 225 hp never pulled it.



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L.Fure

02-13-2018 17:35:51




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
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Do you know how much of a horse power increase they would develop?



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hd6gtom

02-13-2018 16:13:49




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
WHY???



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showcrop

02-13-2018 15:09:45




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That's some pretty determined ring gear teeth to get from the bell housing into the oil pan. Maybe tips of some distributor drive gear teeth



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formulaross

02-13-2018 13:12:47




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
Another consideration: I've read that the 8N rear end is only designed to handle ~30 horsepower! My 8N was stock and I had the tips of some ring gear teeth come out when I changed the fluid.



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L.Fure

02-13-2018 12:21:52




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When I used to pull in an antique pulling club they had two weight classes for the smaller tractors. This is before everyone started souping up their tractors. You had to keep your tractor engines stock, or as close to stock as was necessary. One class was 2850 and the other was 3250. It was fun watching the pipsqueaks pull the sled. Now they don't even have the light classes.

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HFJ

02-13-2018 12:08:52




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You can't put soup in a strainer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sure u can. u just won't catch much of it :)



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oldsarge

02-13-2018 11:59:54




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
If you know so little as your post indicates,I'd start with a Cub Cadet,Wheelhorse or Simplicity in Garden tractor classes. I've been riding my 2N for over 70 years and I know it won't do ANY of what you want.You can't put soup in a strainer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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L.Fure

02-13-2018 11:42:09




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
You just can't stick a ground camshaft in the engine like a stock one. The cam timing will have to be changed. The machinist usually give written instructions on how to time the cam.

Are you really sure you want to spend this much money and time on a N engine? Maybe you should buy a newer model ford tractor and see what that does on the track?



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Patch700

02-13-2018 10:23:03




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
With respect to a cam grinder , I highly recommend these guys : http://www.bulletcams.com/Tractors/index.html

One thing to remember when modifying an engine for antique pullers.. If you make more power than youíre supposed to for that tractor you may be bumped to a different class.. One that will put the little N at a major disadvantage.

The other thing to remember is when you call the camgrinder wanting to know what he can do , he will have A LOT of questions for you regarding what your engine has done to it. What is the actual compression ratio , what is the bore , the stroke , the desired rpm , what type of valve train are you going to use , will you be using stock valve springs , if not then what kind , IE: what are the specs on the springs such as installed height , and the strength of the springs at the installed height and when fully compressed.

And remember , itís one thing to make juice even though itís not worth the squeeze if you are doing the squeezing yourself... Itís quite another to pay someone to do the squeezeing for what only amounts to a tiny bit of juice lol.

Good luck .

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L.Fure

02-13-2018 08:46:45




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
I wonder if M&W ever made sleeves and pistons for N series Fords?



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welding man

02-13-2018 16:21:32




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to L.Fure, 02-13-2018 08:46:45  
They sure did I have 2 sets still in the boxes.M and W high compression domes.



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Mike Groom

02-13-2018 06:50:31




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
I have a set of new .080 oversize pistons and rings for an 8N if you're interested.They are run without sleeves.E-mail is open.



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showcrop

02-13-2018 05:57:54




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
"Just anyone can't grind a cam shaft to good results. That person needs to know what they are doing."

That is probably why he is looking for references.



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L.Fure

02-13-2018 05:11:42




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
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Just anyone can't grind a cam shaft to good results. That person needs to know what they are doing. I have a friend that pulls a Minneapolis Moline G1000 and a GVI. He had the cam ground by a fellow who does this sort of thing. It helped a lot with the torque output of the engine. I'll see him tomorrow, so I'll ask him who does this work.

You're going to have a ton of money stuck in this project and still might not be a competitive puller. I'd start with bigger pistons and a cam grind, then maybe have the crank stroked if you are not happy with those results.

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FordNMan

02-13-2018 05:10:22




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Ultradog MN

02-13-2018 03:17:22




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
I know a guy in Princeton, MN that does all our engine work for us that could probably do it for you. He used to do a lot of pulling so knows a lot about it and is a good engine man with reasonable rates.
He used to run an Oliver with two big block Chevy engines in it. I never saw it run but it was a pretty awesome machine.
Email me if you'd like his number.



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Kirk-NJ

02-13-2018 00:49:08




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
What class will you be pulling in? I have pulled with N's and done all right but you do know that N's don't typical do well at the pulls?

Kirk



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FordNMan

02-12-2018 21:07:37




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
I don't know how much to stroke the cam or anything which is why I just want someone to do it professionally



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Willy-N

02-12-2018 21:06:09




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
Wow what a first post. Used to call it trolling but never know anymore?



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Bill Crowell

02-12-2018 21:05:24




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to FordNMan, 02-12-2018 20:53:17  
How much do you intend to stroke the cam?



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BushogPapa

02-13-2018 10:38:08




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 Re: Ford 8n pulling engine in reply to Bill Crowell, 02-12-2018 21:05:24  
Yes, stroke the cam all the way.and while you are at it, replace the rear Axles with much stronger ones..

We used old 8N axles as teeth for our Manure loader, so many were broken..

I would build a Flat Head Ford V-8 instead...



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