A little help here

Caryc

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OK guys, what are the old implements called that are on two big steel wheels and have the long round slender curved tines probably two feet long? They're maybe 5 or 6 inches apart.

I'm looking for a landscape rake and was trying to tell my nephew what to be on the look out for. The first thing he found was the implement I described above.
 
(quoted from post at 17:12:41 01/19/18) OK guys, what are the old implements called that are on two big steel wheels and have the long round slender curved tines probably two feet long? They're maybe 5 or 6 inches apart.

I'm looking for a landscape rake and was trying to tell my nephew what to be on the look out for. The first thing he found was the implement I described above.
e always called them hay rakes.
 
(quoted from post at 14:40:58 01/19/18) Yea, as Jesse said, hay rake. Same concept as a landscape rake, but for hay, not dirt.
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That's kind of what I thought. But what happens when you get those tines full of loose hay?
 
It doesn't.

The rake is used to pull the cut hay into windrows to dry. then you turn it a few times depending on the word of the oldest guy there. Then it's time to bale. But these days, it's all mechanized. No more boys needed to buck bales and whine & snivel about who stacks bales on the wagon and who walks behind and pitches bales.
 
(quoted from post at 15:30:43 01/19/18) Here's a youtube showing them.
Dump rakes.

Thanks, that's what I needed to see. I didn't know the tines lifted up. There's a couple of those in my area...yard art now. But no landscape rakes. :cry:
 
We moved onto grampa's farm after he
died. Bought 3 herford heifers.
The first 2 years we cut hay with a 5'
JD horse drawn mower then raked it into
piles with one of those rakes. Then
hand forked it onto a hay rack and then
hand forked it into the barn.
Ugh!
I rode the mower and rake. Dad drove
the Allis B.
Those rakes have a pedal that you step
on that raises the tines to dump the
load.
Dad was always in a hurry and drove too
fast. Bouncing around in the seat with
nothing to hold onto aint fun.
One time I got bounced off the rake 3
times in a day. Finally had enough,
wouldn't get back on it and walked
home.
Got chewed out for it but he never
drove that fast again.
 

Maybe you guys that have landscape rakes can answer a question for me. What I wanted one for is like now when the bare dirt on my five acres is starting to turn green.

I figure that with the little tiny maybe an inch or so carpet of green starts coming up, I could drag a landscape rake over them a couple times and it should uproot those little shoots.

I have a roll over box blade and I can turn the blade over so it's pointing the other way and doesn't dig itself into the dirt much. But I still have to raise the blade to empty the dirt and it leaves piles of dirt everywhere. I figured that a landscape rake might just do what I want without any dirt building up in it.
 
It would work good for that and no, the
dirt doesn't bunch up - much.
I have old York brand one that I use on
the driveway up at my property. Has two
small rubber tires you can set the
depth of the tines.
Does a good job of leveling the ruts
and doesn't carry the gravel along like
a back blade does.
 
get a regular land scape rake and spin it around most people don,t know you can turn them around and it will groom your gravel like a comb 👀

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(quoted from post at 18:28:59 01/19/18) Google "Pine Straw Rakes" . It might be more what you want.

Looks like the mostly have round tines on them like a hay rake. I think the landscape rake with the 1" flat tines would do better uprooting all those new shoots.
 
(quoted from post at 22:12:41 01/19/18) OK guys, what are the old implements called that are on two big steel wheels and have the long round slender curved tines probably two feet long? They're maybe 5 or 6 inches apart.

I'm looking for a landscape rake and was trying to tell my nephew what to be on the look out for. The first thing he found was the implement I described above.

What you need is a rotary hoe.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...63229D08EA16F779A0E663229D08EA1&amp;FORM=VIRE
 
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(quoted from post at 22:12:41 01/19/18) OK guys, what are the old implements called that are on two big steel wheels and have the long round slender curved tines probably two feet long? They're maybe 5 or 6 inches apart.

I'm looking for a landscape rake and was trying to tell my nephew what to be on the look out for. The first thing he found was the implement I described above.

What you need is a rotary hoe.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...63229D08EA16F779A0E663229D08EA1&amp;FORM=VIRE

Sure I do, but I also need someone to pay for it. Nice but, no thanks.
 
Most implements on steel wheels are the old pull-behind implements that horses or tractors like Fordsons used. Exceptions of course like hay rakes, but if you have an N-Series or up with a 3-point, that's the type of implement you want, not a pull behind type. I first thought of a Spring (or Rigid) Tine Cultivator minus the steel wheels -like this:

1948 FORD 8N TRACTOR & DEARBORN 13-2 TWO-ROW CULTIVATOR:
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In addition, there is the spring tooth harrow, with multiple gangs of curved tines. It is best you learn the names of the implements better...


Tim Daley(MI)
 
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(quoted from post at 21:10:52 01/19/18)
(quoted from post at 22:12:41 01/19/18) OK guys, what are the old implements called that are on two big steel wheels and have the long round slender curved tines probably two feet long? They're maybe 5 or 6 inches apart.

I'm looking for a landscape rake and was trying to tell my nephew what to be on the look out for. The first thing he found was the implement I described above.

What you need is a rotary hoe.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...63229D08EA16F779A0E663229D08EA1&amp;FORM=VIRE

Sure I do, but I also need someone to pay for it. Nice but, no thanks.

I know the video sounds like the rotary hoe is something new, but rotary hoes have been around for a long time. It shouldn't be too hard to find one in somebody's fence row. I've used an old two row RH in a corn field a few times. It did an exelent job of removing small weeds, buy never touched the corn even though it was up in the an inch or two.. It works best if the weeds are just coming up. It doesn't do as good a job if the weeds get too tall.
 
What you need is a rotary hoe.

I like dat... I use rolling cultivators on a
on a farmall same principle they do a great job and the faster the better...
 
I know the video sounds like the rotary hoe is something new, but rotary hoes have been around for a long time. It shouldn't be too hard to find one in somebody's fence row. I've used an old two row RH in a corn field a few times. It did an exelent job of removing small weeds, buy never touched the corn even though it was up in the an inch or two.. It works best if the weeds are just coming up. It doesn't do as good a job if the weeds get too tall.

I'm in Southern California. This is not midwest farm country where there are old tractors and implements sitting on everyone's property. I know it's hard for people to believe.
 
(quoted from post at 06:25:19 01/20/18) What is it you are trying to accomplish? Cultivating between row crops, getting a weed free seed bed? What are you planting?
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I'm not planting anything. As I said in my original post, I'm just trying to get rid of weeds. I live on five acres and have a good crop of weeds come up every spring. I'd like to get rid of the weeds when the seedlings start to come up.

I've got a Woods M5 mower that I use, but I don't like having to go over it two or maybe three times before the weeds finally give it up. I do use chemicals to spray around buildings and rocks but don't want to use spray on the whole five acres.

The brown dirt is actually starting to turn green already.
 

You're not going to stop the weeds with one pass with any implement I know of. There are weed seeds in the soil that may have been there for fifty years. They will lay there all this time until they are brought up, by tillage, to the idea depth and moisture conditions for it to germinate and grow. Why don't you plant something on your five acres you can live with?
 
Back in the days of the early N and before, and for a time after, there were no or very little pesticides and herbicides for weed control. Farmers used weeders, rotary hoes, cultivators, spring tooth harrows, disc harrows, and such to control weeds. For what you want or even if putting in food plots, I'd go with spraying Round Up to kill weeds. You'll need a 12-volt supply for a sprayer, but best way to go nowadays. You can't get parts for those old implements so why bother? If you go to the other Ford N-Series Tractor club web site, you can look at scans of all the original manuals and even download if need be, free of charge. You can apply modern chemicals too like 'Weed Be Gone', but depending on how much area you want to cover, could get pricey.

Tim Daley(MI)
 
(quoted from post at 14:00:19 01/20/18) Back in the days of the early N and before, and for a time after, there were no or very little pesticides and herbicides for weed control. Farmers used weeders, rotary hoes, cultivators, spring tooth harrows, disc harrows, and such to control weeds. For what you want or even if putting in food plots, I'd go with spraying Round Up to kill weeds. You'll need a 12-volt supply for a sprayer, but best way to go nowadays. You can't get parts for those old implements so why bother? If you go to the other Ford N-Series Tractor club web site, you can look at scans of all the original manuals and even download if need be, free of charge. You can apply modern chemicals too like 'Weed Be Gone', but depending on how much area you want to cover, could get pricey.
Tim Daley(MI)

Thanks but I said "I don't want to spray". I have well water and don't want five acres sprayed with poison.

I've lived on this property for over 40 years. There are no deep seeds waiting to grow. As I said, I can turn my roll over box blade over so the other blade is angled towards the back. It does a fair job of scraping the new little shoots off, but as I also said, it builds up too much dirt too fast and leaves little piles everywhere.

I'm not a farmer. I don't want to plant anything. Even with the landscape rake, I might have to make two or three passes to complete the job. But I'd rather drive a tractor around with a landscape rake on it than a big mower deck.
 

"There are no deep seeds waiting to grow."

I bet there still is seed in the ground waiting to germinate. If there wasn't we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Personally, I think you are on a fools errand if you think you can keep five acres bare of any plant life. You would have to scorch the soil to the depth of 1-3 feet, and make the wind stop blowing so no seeds are carried onto your property that way. Don't forget the birds. Every time they poop there is a chance of an undigested seed being dropped.
 
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"There are no deep seeds waiting to grow."

I bet there still is seed in the ground waiting to germinate. If there wasn't we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Personally, I think you are on a fools errand if you think you can keep five acres bare of any plant life. You would have to scorch the soil to the depth of 1-3 feet, and make the wind stop blowing so no seeds are carried onto your property that way. Don't forget the birds. Every time they poop there is a chance of an undigested seed being dropped.

I'm not a total idiot as you are implying. Of course the weeds are going to grow again. They have been doing that for the forty years I've been on this property. They will always grow. Of course the seed is carried by the wind.

I'm just trying to find an easier way to get rid of them every year without having to use the mower three times. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that I can get a somewhat successful result by scraping off the spring shoots with my box blade.

I just thought that the landscape rake would do a better job since it wouldn't be filling up with dirt and leaving piles of dirt every time I have to empty it. Granted it would probably take two, maybe three passes to get the best result.

See if you can comprehend what I have explained in detail to you above. Look in the mirror and see that fool that failed to understand all my previous posts.
 
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(quoted from post at 16:06:24 01/20/18)
"There are no deep seeds waiting to grow."

I bet there still is seed in the ground waiting to germinate. If there wasn't we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Personally, I think you are on a fools errand if you think you can keep five acres bare of any plant life. You would have to scorch the soil to the depth of 1-3 feet, and make the wind stop blowing so no seeds are carried onto your property that way. Don't forget the birds. Every time they poop there is a chance of an undigested seed being dropped.

I'm not a total idiot as you are implying. Of course the weeds are going to grow again. They have been doing that for the forty years I've been on this property. They will always grow. Of course the seed is carried by the wind.

I'm just trying to find an easier way to get rid of them every year without having to use the mower three times. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that I can get a somewhat successful result by scraping off the spring shoots with my box blade.

I just thought that the landscape rake would do a better job since it wouldn't be filling up with dirt and leaving piles of dirt every time I have to empty it. Granted it would probably take two, maybe three passes to get the best result.

See if you can comprehend what I have explained in detail to you above. Look in the mirror and see that fool that failed to understand all my previous posts.


Ok, maybe I'm missing something. Now, you cut 5 acres 3 times a year. By cultivating that same 5 acres early in the spring, you hope to reduce the number of times you cut it?
 

Why are you worried about the weeds on an unused five acre parcel of land? Just let them grow, and save all the time and energy dealing with them. The land can take care of itself.
 
The typical, modern landscape rake has pretty stiff spring teeth.
It will tear up the soil pretty good and also clog up with weeds and dirt and rocks. No matter if pulled the "hard way" or the "easy way".
Maybe not as fast as your box blade but it won't be eliminated, you will still have to lift it to dump the build up here and there.

You might be able to rent one to try out from an equipment rental place.
 

You might want to consider a Pasture or Drag/Chain Harrow.
They go by several other names but are basically a flexible section made of 1/2" steel rods specially bent and linked together.
Ground engagement varies when pulled one way or the other, and right side up or upside down.
The ground, weeds and rocks/stones will get churned, yanked and/or scraped up. and then roll out from under it as you go.




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(quoted from post at 17:11:04 01/20/18)
(quoted from post at 16:06:24 01/20/18)
"There are no deep seeds waiting to grow."

I bet there still is seed in the ground waiting to germinate. If there wasn't we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Personally, I think you are on a fools errand if you think you can keep five acres bare of any plant life. You would have to scorch the soil to the depth of 1-3 feet, and make the wind stop blowing so no seeds are carried onto your property that way. Don't forget the birds. Every time they poop there is a chance of an undigested seed being dropped.

I'm not a total idiot as you are implying. Of course the weeds are going to grow again. They have been doing that for the forty years I've been on this property. They will always grow. Of course the seed is carried by the wind.

I'm just trying to find an easier way to get rid of them every year without having to use the mower three times. You don't seem to be able to comprehend that I can get a somewhat successful result by scraping off the spring shoots with my box blade.

I just thought that the landscape rake would do a better job since it wouldn't be filling up with dirt and leaving piles of dirt every time I have to empty it. Granted it would probably take two, maybe three passes to get the best result.

See if you can comprehend what I have explained in detail to you above. Look in the mirror and see that fool that failed to understand all my previous posts.


Ok, maybe I'm missing something. Now, you cut 5 acres 3 times a year. By cultivating that same 5 acres early in the spring, you hope to reduce the number of times you cut it?

I'm not cultivating anything. I'm scraping the early growth off with my box blade, to avoid having to mow it. This is for all purposes here desert land in southern California. We don't have jungles growing like you people in the mid west farm country.
 
(quoted from post at 19:36:33 01/20/18)
Why are you worried about the weeds on an unused five acre parcel of land? Just let them grow, and save all the time and energy dealing with them. The land can take care of itself.

Have you ever heard of fire? The weeds that grow here grow for around three months then die. Then you have a nice three foot high stand of ready to burn dry material.

Again, this is reclaimed desert land here not the mid west where it stays green all the time.
 
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(quoted from post at 19:36:33 01/20/18)
Why are you worried about the weeds on an unused five acre parcel of land? Just let them grow, and save all the time and energy dealing with them. The land can take care of itself.

Have you ever heard of fire? The weeds that grow here grow for around three months then die. Then you have a nice three foot high stand of ready to burn dry material.

Again, this is reclaimed desert land here not the mid west where it stays green all the time.

Okay, now the picture is beginning to come in clear. You live in a dry part of the country. The weeds become a fire hazard when they are not taken care of during the summer. You also live where farm implements are scarce, so you may have to modify what you do find to suit your needs.

Can you travel outside your area to search for what you need? Or would it be too far to go?
 
" Okay, now the picture is beginning to come in clear. You live in a dry part of the country. The weeds become a fire hazard when they are not taken care of during the summer."

LMAO!

I can only imagine how many replies this post would have if that was clearly stated from the get-go..........as opposed to a question about id'ing a hay rake. And a follow-up about how they work.
 
(quoted from post at 17:27:12 01/21/18) " Okay, now the picture is beginning to come in clear. You live in a dry part of the country. The weeds become a fire hazard when they are not taken care of during the summer."

LMAO!

I can only imagine how many replies this post would have if that was clearly stated from the get-go..........as opposed to a question about id'ing a hay rake. And a follow-up about how they work.

It had me wondering for a while until we got all the information. Even after understanding the problem, I'm afraid I don't know how I can help.
 
(quoted from post at 09:45:24 01/21/18)
(quoted from post at 17:27:12 01/21/18) " Okay, now the picture is beginning to come in clear. You live in a dry part of the country. The weeds become a fire hazard when they are not taken care of during the summer."

LMAO!

I can only imagine how many replies this post would have if that was clearly stated from the get-go..........as opposed to a question about id'ing a hay rake. And a follow-up about how they work.

It had me wondering for a while until we got all the information. Even after understanding the problem, I'm afraid I don't know how I can help.

Sorry guys, but my location does show "Southern California". I thought everyone knew that this area is reclaimed desert land and remained so until we got irrigation from the Colorado river.

We don't get that much rain, so you don't see green meadows and fields and total woodsy areas like you guy have in the mid west that stay green all the time. By the way, I lived in New Jersey until I was 9 years old and I do miss having all those woods to play in.
 
looks like this would do he job, but roundup might bge cheaper.

http://www.stableandarena.com/arena-harrows.html
 
"this area is reclaimed desert land "

You must live in the part of that reclaimed desert that doesn't grow produce.

Some of the prettiest strawberry fields I've ever seen were around Fallbrook CA.
 
(quoted from post at 10:32:55 01/21/18) "this area is reclaimed desert land "

You must live in the part of that reclaimed desert that doesn't grow produce.

Some of the prettiest strawberry fields I've ever seen were around Fallbrook CA.

You're talking about irrigated areas. Even after bringing in irrigation to socal that doesn't change the native vegetation that grows here, mesquite, greasewood, sagebrush, manzanita. And then there's the old standard, Russian thistle or tumble weed.
 

Take a look at a USA states map. Southern California borders Nevada and Arizona, not exactly swampland. :wink:
 
OK, to try and clear things up, I took some pictures. I went out and did a little scraping today.

Picture 1 shows my property on the other side of my driveway. You can see the green weeds starting to come up.

After running over them with my box blade on this side of the driveway, you can see what I'm trying to end up with. The weeds scraped over and chewed up in pics 2 and 3.

picture 4 shows my box blade with the blade turned over to it angles the other way and doesn't dig in and collect much dirt.

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I think it would be easier to just keep it mowed. If you want it bare, just pave it all. I would rather have sage brush than bare dusty dirt. I understand your fire concern, I live in a forest with trees all around. did you check the link I posted?
 
(quoted from post at 18:58:31 01/21/18) I think it would be easier to just keep it mowed. If you want it bare, just pave it all. I would rather have sage brush than bare dusty dirt. I understand your fire concern, I live in a forest with trees all around. did you check the link I posted?

Where do you suggest I get the money to pave all that? Yes, I checked that link more big bucks equipment.

You would not be too happy with the sage brush if a fire was coming at you.
 
(quoted from post at 21:32:05 01/21/18)
(quoted from post at 18:58:31 01/21/18) I think it would be easier to just keep it mowed. If you want it bare, just pave it all. I would rather have sage brush than bare dusty dirt. I understand your fire concern, I live in a forest with trees all around. did you check the link I posted?

Where do you suggest I get the money to pave all that? Yes, I checked that link more big bucks equipment.

You would not be too happy with the sage brush if a fire was coming at you.
I live in a Douglas fir forest and I know all about fire danger. I make sure my fire insurance is up to date.
like I told you before I would just keep it mowed and not worry too much about it.
 

You're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Why would you like living in such a place as you are in now?
 
(quoted from post at 03:46:16 01/22/18)
You're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Why would you like living in such a place as you are in now?

That's kind of insulting. I do like living here or I would have never purchased the property. It's peaceful and the neighbors are spread way out. I can do what I want with no complaints. And here's the big one...I'm not a farmer. I also have free great tasting well water. I can also shoot. I'm not under two feet of snow as some of you guys are now. We have year round nice weather.
 
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(quoted from post at 03:46:16 01/22/18)
You're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Why would you like living in such a place as you are in now?

That's kind of insulting. I do like living here or I would have never purchased the property. It's peaceful and the neighbors are spread way out. I can do what I want with no complaints. And here's the big one...I'm not a farmer. I also have free great tasting well water. I can also shoot. I'm not under two feet of snow as some of you guys are now. We have year round nice weather.

I didn't mean to insult you, sorry. I guess you do have a lot of advantages where you live. What is the average temperature during the summer and winter?
 
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It's peaceful and the neighbors are spread way out. I can do what I want with no complaints. And here's the big one...I'm not a farmer. I also have free great tasting well water. I can also shoot.

another thing i like, as a non-farmer living in the sticks, is the ability to hop on the quad and go for a ride at 2 in the morning if i feel like it.
 
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(quoted from post at 12:39:15 01/22/18)
It's peaceful and the neighbors are spread way out. I can do what I want with no complaints. And here's the big one...I'm not a farmer. I also have free great tasting well water. I can also shoot.

another thing i like, as a non-farmer living in the sticks, is the ability to hop on the quad and go for a ride at 2 in the morning if i feel like it.

And you don't need to run to the house every time you need to pee. It has taken some time for my grandsons to get over that one.
 
I'll add my 2 cents to this run-on thread, although at this point I'm having my doubts as to whether an outside solution is really being sought.

My idea of the best answers relative to how the question was first asked were already given early on.

UltraDog said a landscape rake with depth wheels. Excellent!

Someone else said, spin the rake around 180 to comb the ground.

That would also redistribute any dirt pulled along from uneven spots.
 
(quoted from post at 18:02:33 01/23/18)
So.......watchya gonna go with ?????

Probably a landscape rake if I can find one. Or maybe TSC's Chinese junk one for $600 if I get desperate.
 

I am thinking if it wants to burn burn it..

rig up a propane weed burner that is if they have not banded that YET... :lol:

Are I can send folks out there to drive all over it as they can not read my KEEP OFF THE GRASS sign...

I have spent 10's of thousands of dollars to keep my yard mowed and this guy wants to kill his yard... Looks like there is no cheap way out for either of us... How about a goat are two...

Just wondering Caryc do you have fire ants...
 

If you get a landscape rake run from one that attaches the tines to angle iron... Look for one that attaches/ sandwich's the tines between flat stock...
 
(quoted from post at 19:53:29 01/23/18)
I am thinking if it wants to burn burn it..

rig up a propane weed burner that is if they have not banded that YET... :lol:

Are I can send folks out there to drive all over it as they can not read my KEEP OFF THE GRASS sign...

I have spent 10's of thousands of dollars to keep my yard mowed and this guy wants to kill his yard... Looks like there is no cheap way out for either of us... How about a goat are two...

Just wondering Caryc do you have fire ants...

Being in a high fire danger area we have to have a permit to burn anything. A fire in these hills would be bad news for everybody.

I don't get you asking about fire ants but yes I do see them once in a while. But as soon as I see ants, I track them back to their nest and give them a few ounces of Amdro fire ant killer. They immediately start taking the pieces and dragging them into their hole. Next day...no more ants.
 
(quoted from post at 19:49:25 01/23/18)
(quoted from post at 18:02:33 01/23/18)
So.......watchya gonna go with ?????

Probably a landscape rake if I can find one. Or maybe T
SC's Chinese junk one for $600 if I get desperate.

Cary,

By all means!
Even if it turns out there is something better for this task, you will always be glad you have a rake!

You with your handy lynch pin adjustable limiter chains . . .
Use them on your new landscape rake to set the depth!

You won't need to spring for depth wheels. :)
 
Like Hobo said . . . my tines are sandwiched between two flats.

But easy for me to say cause I bought my tractor partly because it came with a rake that looked super useful even before I knew how true that was.
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Probably a landscape rake if I can find one. Or maybe TSC's Chinese junk one for $600 if I get desperate.[/quote]ounty Line[/b:8467015479] 6' rake from TSC looks quite well made!
If you uncover any weak points just beef 'em up.

County Line Rake
 

CaryC, you are probably a very fine person, but from this thread you are just coming across as some major piece of work!
 
(quoted from post at 13:46:38 01/25/18)
CaryC, you are probably a very fine person, but from this thread you are just coming across as some major piece of work!

A lot of that was my fault. I must have been in a bad mood when I was making my replies to CaryC. He was only defending where he lived when I made uninformed comments about where he lived.
CaryC,
We have dry periods in the Midwest every so often, but can usually burn off some brush without permits during the wet season. I remember one dry spring a neighboring farmer was taking a section of land off CRP to put it back into production. What he wanted to do was burn off the thick matting of dry grass to make the soil easier to till. Only he lit the fires, then headed home to get his tractor a field finisher, so he could work up the soil around the outside of the field to keep the fire contanded. He was a bit slow getting back there, because the fire trucks beat him there. I could see smoke in the air at my place when the fire department was going by. I jumped in my truck to see whos barn was on fire, only it was all that grass burning. It looked like a fire burning in the Sudan in Africa. It was quite a sight. Between the fire department, and his efforts with his tillage equipment they got the fire under control. The fire did get into some other farm fields before they got it under control, but no buildings were set on fire.
 
(quoted from post at 05:46:38 01/25/18)
CaryC, you are probably a very fine person, but from this thread you are just coming across as some major piece of work!

That’s the trouble with the printed word here. When you’re standing right in front of someone, you can pretty much tell by their demeanor or facial expression, their true meaning. You can’t do that here. It’s easy to take things the wrong way. This can happen with me and anyone else. I have absolutely no ill feelings with anyone here.

I love this forum. I came here over 12 years ago as a new 8N owner and knowing nothing about the tractor. Most everything I now know, I learned from the guys here and the manuals they told me to buy. There is a real wealth of knowledge in this place.

L.Fure, I do not accept any kind of apology from you because none was needed in the first place. I’m sorry if I rubbed or seemed to rub anybody the wrong way.

Tall T, I see by your pictures that you live in the kind of place that if you didn’t manage it, it would soon turn into a green jungle then eventually a beautiful woods. You must get a lot of rain. In my part of the country, my weeds just grow up in the winter then die and turn into fire fuel. If I let it go, some of it would turn into grease wood or sagebrush that is still a fire hazard but too big for any mower to handle. When I first got my tractor with the FEL on it, I used the FEL to bull doze and rip out a mountain of that stuff that was too big to mow. I’m not going to let it grow into that again.
 

Here's an idea I'll run by you. Could you find an old sprayer tank mounted on wheels, or maybe an old fuel oil barrel that would hold around 300 gallons of water? I'm thinking that one bad thing about any fire is how long it takes a fire truck to get there to put it out. Sounds to me like everything would be burn up by the time they get there. If you had a large water barrel on wheels with a PTO operated pump with some hose on it you might be able to put out a fire if one headed your way. I had some canvas fire hose here, but it rotted away before I figured out what to do with it. I still have several nozzles around here yet. You're welcome to them if you want to set up your own fire fighting rig.
 
(quoted from post at 13:17:14 01/25/18)
Here's an idea I'll run by you. Could you find an old sprayer tank mounted on wheels, or maybe an old fuel oil barrel that would hold around 300 gallons of water? I'm thinking that one bad thing about any fire is how long it takes a fire truck to get there to put it out. Sounds to me like everything would be burn up by the time they get there. If you had a large water barrel on wheels with a PTO operated pump with some hose on it you might be able to put out a fire if one headed your way. I had some canvas fire hose here, but it rotted away before I figured out what to do with it. I still have several nozzles around here yet. You're welcome to them if you want to set up your own fire fighting rig.

Thanks for your generous offer, but I'm not really worried about my place burning down. I do have the two tractors so I have enough cleared land that a fire would not affect my home. Even in the hills where I live there is a fire station about 10 minutes away from my place. Also, we have a small airport about ten flight minutes from me. They have phosphate bombers that work out of there so they can get them up and flying pretty quickly.

I keep my stuff cut down while it is still green and in no danger or burning. But still, it's nice country here in the hills and no one wants to look out their window and see a view of burned and blackened hills. Besides, after a fire, there can be water run off problems. The last fire we had in this area was stopped within probably a half mile from my place. They knocked it down with the fire bombers and water dropping helicopters. That must have been more than fifteen years ago. There have been other spot fires in these hills but they knock them down pretty quickly. They get on them really fast.
 

That's good to know. I wonder if fires occurred on those hills before houses were built on them? It could have been a natural process with houses in the way of that process now. Mother nature has a way of getting what she wants regardless of what man wants.
 
(quoted from post at 09:51:06 01/24/18)
(quoted from post at 19:53:29 01/23/18)
I am thinking if it wants to burn burn it..

rig up a propane weed burner that is if they have not banded that YET... :lol:

Are I can send folks out there to drive all over it as they can not read my KEEP OFF THE GRASS sign...

I have spent 10's of thousands of dollars to keep my yard mowed and this guy wants to kill his yard... Looks like there is no cheap way out for either of us... How about a goat are two...

Just wondering Caryc do you have fire ants...

Being in a high fire danger area we have to have a permit to burn anything. A fire in these hills would be bad news for everybody.

I don't get you asking about fire ants but yes I do see them once in a while. But as soon as I see ants, I track them back to their nest and give them a few ounces of Amdro fire ant killer. They immediately start taking the pieces and dragging them into their hole. Next day...no more ants.

Any open area like that around here is infested with fire ants I was just asking looks like they would run you off that place...

http://articles.extension.org/pages/9725/geographic-distribution-of-fire-ants
 

Ok, I get your question now. But as I said, I'm like a bloodhound. If I see one ant I'll follow it to the nest. I don't give them a chance to get really established. The Amdro stuff really works in one feeding. Do they sell the stuff where you are?
 

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