My Tractor In AD

Tim PloughNman Daley

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Flipping thru the latest issue of The N-News I noticed on page 28 an AD for link_disallowed and lo and behold there is my early '48 8N Tractor in their ad! Though somewhat flattered, don't you think they should have asked for my permission first?

Tim Daley(MI)
 
It's the internet Tim.
No permission asked and no accreditation given.
You probably know I have helped many people with their Hundred and Thousand Series power steering systems. I have seen my photos pirated Many times and have even seen total C/P plagiarism of my words offered by others as their own advice.
I was never as offended by someone stealing my photos but using my words is pretty low. Usually if you confront them about it they'll just say they "read it on the internet" and tell you to go drown yourself if you don't like it.
C'est la vie
 
I'm an avid birder and often take pics on my birding adventures. I've had a few pics stolen and posted elsewhere on the internet. Sucks but...what can I do that won't cost a fortune? Now I watermark my pics and am very careful what and where I post my pics.
 
I am no lawyer but there are differences between commercial and non-commercial use. A good example is companies cannot use your picture without your permission. I think the tractor picture is a no-no for a company like Stevens. I bet if Tim complains the picture is taken down tout suite.

Recently I was surprised to find one of my PDF tech articles posted 100% as authored on an educational website. No changes whatsoever - not even formatting - and no attribution whatsoever. It looked like something they had prepared themselves. Personally I was flattered that they thought enough of it to repost it. My personal position is anything I post on the web is free for any and all reuse. If that use crosses the line into illicit activity or is used as an endorsement of something with which I do not want to be associated I'll deal with it to the extent my financial resources and the legal system allow..

TOH
 
(quoted from post at 10:36:36 11/15/17) unless copyrighted you are fair game.

Copyright is automatic, at least in the US. No need to file anything. That said, the better documented you are, the more likely you are to win an infringement action.

es
 
Yes.
My advice, be it good or bad is given freely - for the sole purpose of helping others.
On the other hand, a guy who uses my photos or posts my advice verbatim without acknowledging that it is the work of someone else is still a thief.
 

He needs to get over it... I am not sure if he is looking to a metal are a chest to pin it on... All in said and done no matter how good the info are how much work you put into it are that no one else has questioned it and came up with the answer some so called Guru is gonna say it was common knowledge...

If you are looking for credit the best thing to do is keep your trap shut till someone is willing to pay you for the information... The internet has made this free because someone across the country will tell you for free to show you how smart they are...

Chalk it up for the betterment of the community and move on with life...
 
Back in the late 90's dad and I painted the old AC WD45. I posted a picture of it on a antique tractor site and submitted a photo to a magazine. About a year later two friends came up to me while attending a local auction. One told me I was a celebrity. Told me they saw my tractor on a calendar.

I told them it couldn't be mine I didn't submit any photo for a calendar. Later he showed me the calendar. The calendar was a generic calendar the title was "CLASSIC FARM TRACTORS" my picture was the month of August.
 
WTF? It gets posted so fellas can use the images for understanding what a restoration looks like. If one uses Internet stuff to profit from, then it is wrong, and folks don't know copyright laws include the Internet, but no one bothers to seek permission anymore to use. I'm not looking for retribution, just pointing out the facts...

TPD
 
HiYa Dogman-
The copyright laws have changed since the advent of the Internet, but they still apply, contrary to what most people think. Most books have a notation stating that "No part of this book may be reproduced without permission from the publisher". DVD's and CD's/albums/tapes all carry a similar message. The problem is people think once it shows up on the Internet, it is in the public domain and free to use as one likes. Years ago I once found a Dearborn Manual on ebay being sold by some 'seller'. It caught my eye because there was hand written note on the cover in pencil by some previous owner. That's mine I said! The manual was one I had scanned was my property and I posted on the other site's MANUAL library. When I contacted the 'seller' he just told me he found it on the Internet and thus was free to use and that I should just go and make love to my dog. I filed a complaint with ebay but never heard a peep from them. Copyrights are good for 35 years then they expire but can be renewed. If the author has passed away and/or the publisher is out business, and copyright has not been renewed by the family heirs, then usage is permitted as long as the source and publisher are cited properly. I don't mind sharing info for others to benefit from, but when used to gain profit, that's when I have problem. I did hear back from the folks at Stevens and they said their tech department found the picture on the Internet and di not see a copyright or watermark on it nor any other info. They are going redo the ad and add my name, tractor model and such, in the future. That's fine, but I won't hold my breath. You can put a watermark and/or a copyright disclaimer on your stuff but those things can be easily erased with PhotoShop or Paint or similar programs.


Tim Daley(MI)
 

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