Have a hole in my timing gear cover

Hi, try to make this as short as possible. I have a 52 8N with the side distributor. I bought it 3 years ago (was overhauled and restored) and have been using it for snow removal. 2 weeks ago I went to start it and it ran for about 100 feet or so, then died. I looked at the distributor and the cap (and wires) all appeared to have been twisted counter clockwise. I thought it needed timing so I set the flywheel to 8 degrees, the rotor was pointing to the #1 cylinder and I started it. It ran for a few seconds, then stopped. I looked at the dist. cover and there was a hole in it. Can someone explain to me why this could have happened? I've ordered a new cover and distributor, so that's on the way. Thanks Jody
 
A loose screw that fell out and jammed up the advance weights, or one of the pins in the centrifugal advance weights was worn and broke allowing the weight to swing too far out and contact one of the screw bosses inside the distributor. The distributor was possibly loose enough to turn and get out of time enough to quit running the first time. If the distributor shaft stops turning but the camshaft is still turning, it will bend the distributor shaft and break the timing gear cover.
 
A similar thing happened to me, previous owner must have dropped a screw down below points plate, screw finally bounced between centrifugal weight and dist housing locking the distributor
up. Lucky for me the dist clamp was loose enough to allow it to spin so, new distributor, cap, rotor and wires later and its been running great since.
 
I will post a picture tomorrow after work...Thank you for the replies...Not exactly sure what's all involved with the timing gear cover, but I guess I'll find out! Jody
 
took pictures of my timing cover but for some reason I can't post them...http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/photos/mvphoto3716.jpg
 

I think you'll find the answer to your question after you remove the timing cover. Please let us know what you find.
 
I would suggest taking the distributor apart and find out what made it stop turning. Most likely the shaft got bent, as when the distributor stopped turning while the engine still was turning the gear on the camshaft that turns the gear on the distributor shaft forced the distributor shaft forward causing the cover to break. You will need to inspect the gear on the end of the camshaft closely, it may have been damaged as well. Also you need to make sure that no parts of the cover are anywhere inside the motor. If you cannot account for all of the parts of the cover (put it back together like a jig saw puzzle) you may need to drop the oil pan to be sure you do not have any bits inside.

Make sure your replacement distributor is put together right, has nothing loose inside, no long screws mounting the points and condenser that could contact the advance weights, etc. We bought a tractor last year with broken cover and distributor. The previous owner said they were trying to start it by pulling with a pickup. He said he "dumped the clutch and the distributor cap popped off". They had spent a lot of money and done a lot of work to the tractor, but after that they just gave up and bought a new 4WD tractor with FEL and put this one up for sale. We got it for significantly less than the asking price, but it was still a lot of work to get it in good running condition. We were lucky in that the distributor drive gear on the camshaft was not damaged and no parts of the cover got inside the motor. I was able to get a replacement cover and distributor from a local guy who deals in parts for old tractors, Fords and Fergusons mainly. Have read where the new replacement front covers sometimes have bolt holes that don't line up right. Good used parts are usually better than new.

Best of luck with your endeavor.
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(quoted from post at 09:53:33 09/22/17) I would suggest taking the distributor apart and find out what made it stop turning. Most likely the shaft got bent, as when the distributor stopped turning while the engine still was turning the gear on the camshaft that turns the gear on the distributor shaft forced the distributor shaft forward causing the cover to break. You will need to inspect the gear on the end of the camshaft closely, it may have been damaged as well. Also you need to make sure that no parts of the cover are anywhere inside the motor. If you cannot account for all of the parts of the cover (put it back together like a jig saw puzzle) you may need to drop the oil pan to be sure you do not have any bits inside.

Make sure your replacement distributor is put together right, has nothing loose inside, no long screws mounting the points and condenser that could contact the advance weights, etc. We bought a tractor last year with broken cover and distributor. The previous owner said they were trying to start it by pulling with a pickup. He said he "dumped the clutch and the distributor cap popped off". They had spent a lot of money and done a lot of work to the tractor, but after that they just gave up and bought a new 4WD tractor with FEL and put this one up for sale. We got it for significantly less than the asking price, but it was still a lot of work to get it in good running condition. We were lucky in that the distributor drive gear on the camshaft was not damaged and no parts of the cover got inside the motor. I was able to get a replacement cover and distributor from a local guy who deals in parts for old tractors, Fords and Fergusons mainly. Have read where the new replacement front covers sometimes have bolt holes that don't line up right. Good used parts are usually better than new.

Best of luck with your endeavor.
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ust curious, did you have to take any other parts off to put your new Timing Gear back on?? Thank you for the post, it's greatly appreciated!!
 
Weeeeel, It took a while to get the parts. My nephew was holding the funds, and getting him together with the parts guy was "fun". In the mean time I had taken off the hood, radiator, front axle and support (needed bushing and pin), generator (bad bearings), so I had no problem with access to get to the front timing gear cover. You do not have to remove the front axle to replace the timing cover. You do to remove the oil pan. Having the hood and radiator out of the way would make it a lot easier to do though, and I don't think I would try to remove and replace the timing gear cover without removing the hood and radiator first. The hardest part about removing the hood is getting the steering wheel off:)

I have never had any help removing or replacing the hood on an "N" tractor. Have not used a hoist or lift of any kind either. I do remove the sediment bowl and put a pipe plug in the hole, and I have a piece of 2x4 with a hole large enough to fit around the filler neck on the radiator. Once I get the hood bolts out, I just raise the front of the hood enough to get the 2x4 block over the radiator filler neck so the hood can rest on it and not damage the radiator while I am getting myself positioned to lift the hood off of the tractor. It would be a lot easier with a helper:)
 

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