Simple temp gauge

Here is a very simple temp guage. mr Gasket thermocap. Pic
was taken after brush hogging for an hour at 95 degrees. Not
bad!!! I had no reason to believe it was overheating, I just like
to know the coolant temp. Only problem is I can't see it while
Driving.

You need a Motometer. In the early part of the last century aftermarket companies sold a vertical thermometer to fit in place of the radiator cap, like the one you have, only visible from the drivers seat. Google Boyce Motometer to see what I am referring to.Yours is likely much more accurate.




Jerry

I Googled that name and a bunch of them came up, all rated at 16 pounds. You do know that you are supposed to use a 4 pound cap on the "N", right?

Didn't know that about the 4 pound cap. My original was worn out and would loosen while driving so I put. This one I had laying around the shop on it. I suppose I'll have to look into changing the spring but I don't know how I'd do that without tearing it up.

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I Googled that name and a bunch of them came up, all rated at 16 pounds. You do know that you are supposed to use a 4 pound cap on the "N", right?

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e will figure it out after he blows the seams out of radiator tank. We learn by the mistakes we make......just like me.

I doubt it will seal like a N cap will unless he made a spacer to go under it... The fill neck on a N radiator is deeper than a standard radiator... To use a radiator pressure tester on a N I have to make a spacer are its a no-go...

It actually fits like a glove! And it doesn't come loose while
Driving like the original.

I bought a new radiator, new 4 pound cap for it, but.......it was intended for a longer fill neck radiator & the spring bottomed out, resulting in untold pressure, enough to balloon tank & split seam on $300 radiator! Yes, I know, I should have checked, as I have run into the exact opposite before, where neck was so long that cap seal didn't even reach bottom. We learn by the mistakes we make. Unfortunately it was on MY own equipment!

(quoted from post at 12:31:52 08/01/17) I bought a new radiator, new 4 pound cap for it, but.......it was intended for a longer fill neck radiator & the spring bottomed out, resulting in untold pressure, enough to balloon tank & split seam on $300 radiator!

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ouch. was it repairable?

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(quoted from post at 12:31:52 08/01/17) I bought a new radiator, new 4 pound cap for it, but.......it was intended for a longer fill neck radiator & the spring bottomed out, resulting in untold pressure, enough to balloon tank & split seam on $300 radiator!

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ouch. was it repairable?

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ew, fresh solder joint was easily re-soldered.

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It actually fits like a glove! And it doesn't come loose while
Driving like the original.

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You still don't get it do you? It's still a 16 pound cap. Too much pressure for the "N" radiator.

No need to be a jerk... I do absolutely "get it".

I get that it is a 4 psi system.

I get that it is a 16 psi cap.


I get that my original 4 psi cap does not stay tight while driving... it loosens up a LOT!!!!


I get that this cap stays on and "fits the neck"


You don't get that I have owned this tractor one week!!!

And like anything new machine I buy with an engine and 4 wheels, I have a learning curve... that's exactly why I am here on this forum.

I respect everyone's Constructive input. I don't respect those who disrespect me right off the bat. You don't know the first thing about me. I'm retired from the military and have held civilian jobs that include being an engineer for Lockheed Martin as well as an RF broadcast engineer for a 5 FM, 3AM radio station company. I know what I'm doing electrically and mechanically, I just haven't memorized the entire encyclopedia worth of Ford N tractor knowledge in the first week I've owned one.


Now please, if you want to insult, just don't look at any thread I start. If you don't like it or think I'm n idiot that "doesn't get it" then don't reply.


BTW, constructive input would be "hey there is this company that makes a replacement radiator that is capable of 16 psi". Or "while this cap is 16 psi, here is a link to another that has a huge that is 4 psi".

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It actually fits like a glove! And it doesn't come loose while
Driving like the original.

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Your use of an explanation point seemed like you were so happy that it fit like a glove and didn't come loose.

You didn't mention anything about you planning to stop using it on your tractor.

What was I supposed to think?

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No need to be a jerk... I do absolutely "get it".

I get that it is a 4 psi system.

I get that it is a 16 psi cap.


I get that my original 4 psi cap does not stay tight while driving... it loosens up a LOT!!!!


I get that this cap stays on and "fits the neck"


You don't get that I have owned this tractor one week!!!

And like anything new machine I buy with an engine and 4 wheels, I have a learning curve... that's exactly why I am here on this forum.

I respect everyone's Constructive input. I don't respect those who disrespect me right off the bat. You don't know the first thing about me. I'm retired from the military and have held civilian jobs that include being an engineer for Lockheed Martin as well as an RF broadcast engineer for a 5 FM, 3AM radio station company. I know what I'm doing electrically and mechanically, I just haven't memorized the entire encyclopedia worth of Ford N tractor knowledge in the first week I've owned one.


Now please, if you want to insult, just don't look at any thread I start. If you don't like it or think I'm n idiot that "doesn't get it" then don't reply.


BTW, constructive input would be "[color=red:12bc7d39d5][b:12bc7d39d5]hey there is this company that makes a replacement radiator that is capable of 16 psi[/b:12bc7d39d5][/color:12bc7d39d5]". Or "while this cap is 16 psi, here is a link to another that has a huge that is 4 psi".

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BTW, just how stupid do you think I am? Like I'm going to suggest that you purchase a whole new radiator just so you can use a 16 pound cap? Wow !!!

Or maybe that's what you are considering doing.

For some reason the edit function is not working on this forum. I am typing this on my IPhone and autocorrect sometimes gets the best of me. Last line of my previous post was meant to say "guage" and not "huge".


Lastly, I see your status here. You have 2900+ posts and are a tractor guru. I sincerely respect that! And I acknowledge that I am the furthest thing from a tractor guru. Fact is, I was raised on 4 acres and learned to drive a manual on my dads old Minneapolis moline tricycle tractor. I didn't have an original Ford N bought by my grandpa and handed down to me through the generations. I have instead never inherited any scrap of land at all, let alone any tractors. Due to my family's divorces and squandering I have nothing from them and am only now at age 45 learning how to farm.

But I am a subject matter in my own
Right. Retired Army Major and with about as many posts and site status as you when it comes to websites helping disabled
Veterans (pebforum.com), aspiring Army officers (Armyocs.com), and a couple of other sites. I never tell someone that they don't get it. If you or your kin were asking about Army officer commissioning at the start of their career or VA ratings and benefits at the end of their career I would treat all of hem
With dignity and respect. I only ask that you do the same.

Ask yourself why are you here? To help others, or to be the expert and feed your own ego... now if you could only choose one of the two, which would
It be?

Seems like you are here to feed your ego.

Yes I have considered swapping out my entire radiator to fit a 16 pound cap! Why? Because my current radiator looks like it is straight Out of 1942!

It isn't leaking but it looks like it's been through
Hell! So if it's on it's last legs why wouldn't I want to upgrade, and while upgrading, why not upgrade t a 16 psi capable radiator? Same reasoning people use for 6v to 12v electrical conversions...

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Seems like you are here to feed your ego.

Yes I have considered swapping out my entire radiator to fit a 16 pound cap! Why? Because my current radiator looks like it is straight Out of 1942!

It isn't leaking but it looks like it's been through
Hell! So if it's on it's last legs why wouldn't I want to upgrade, and while upgrading, why not upgrade t a 16 psi capable radiator? Same reasoning people use for 6v to 12v electrical conversions...

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I've got news for you, your whole tractor is straight out of 1942. My 8N is straight out of 1950. For a tractor that is 67 years old, it is still functioning quite nicely with the 67 year old radiator and all it's 67 year old parts. It would seem that Henry Ford built a tractor that was meant to last.

It's your tractor and your welcome to do as you please with it. But, why not just buy a modern tractor and you won't have those old parts to worry about?

You seem to think a whole lot of yourself giving us your whole life story but this is a tractor forum. If you don't like the advice don't bother to come here. There are some old timers here who are quite outspoken and to the point so I don't think you'll like them either but if you come here for knowledge about tractors, just try to learn and don't be so confrontational.

Yes I am planning at some point to swap my radiator. Because mine while it cools very well, looks crappy and may even be the original!

Now I've been through the wringer as far as radiators go. I have a big Block 71 dodge sweptline truck that the original radiator Wrnt out on. I researched and found a champion radiator that wasn't the correct application (nobody makes an original for my truck anymore)but I was able to fab mounts and fit it and it cools Great. I was able to do this mostly because dodge sweptline guys who had been through this before me had given advice which I found online. What they didn't give was attitude like you are displaying.

I have ran this cap on my 2N for exactly one hour. I said that in a previous post. I have not ran it since. It ran flawlessly and did not explode what appears to be the factory original radiator. I did not die, the sky did not fall, headgasket didn't blow, and even the hoses survived.

So why should I be vilified and treated like scum of the earth because I tried to simply swap a radiator cap out on a tractor I've owned for only a week, because the original cap was so worn out that it turns and loosens up while driving? Using the old cap in my situation is like using no cap at all.

Now riddle me this expert, how much did you know your first week around Ford N tractors? Probably not much.

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(quoted from post at 11:41:18 08/01/17)
Seems like you are here to feed your ego.

Yes I have considered swapping out my entire radiator to fit a 16 pound cap! Why? Because my current radiator looks like it is straight Out of 1942!

It isn't leaking but it looks like it's been through
Hell! So if it's on it's last legs why wouldn't I want to upgrade, and while upgrading, why not upgrade t a 16 psi capable radiator? Same reasoning people use for 6v to 12v electrical conversions...

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I've got news for you, your whole tractor is straight out of 1942. My 8N is straight out of 1950. For a tractor that is 67 years old, it is still functioning quite nicely with the 67 year old radiator and all it's 67 year old parts. It would seem that Henry Ford built a tractor that was meant to last.

It's your tractor and your welcome to do as you please with it. But, why not just buy a modern tractor and you won't have those old parts to worry about?

You seem to think a whole lot of yourself giving us your whole life story but this is a tractor forum. If you don't like the advice don't bother to come here. There are some old timers here who are quite outspoken and to the point so I don't think you'll like them either but if you come here for knowledge about tractors, just try to learn and don't be so confrontational.

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And I've got news for you. My tractor isn't 67 years old, it's 75 years old. I wasn't the one who started this "confrontational" bit, that was you. With the remark that I still didn't get it. And now it is you that didn't get it. I was not replying to you. I was replying to the gentleman that was talking about the neck not fitting and I simply replied that it did indeed fit. And gen you took it upon yourself to get on your high horse and be an jerk. Assuming that I was talking to you and assuming that I "still didn't get it". That is on you, not me. Have a nice day.

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Yes I am planning at some point to swap my radiator. Because mine while it cools very well, looks crappy and may even be the original!

Now I've been through the wringer as far as radiators go. I have a big Block 71 dodge sweptline truck that the original radiator Wrnt out on. I researched and found a champion radiator that wasn't the correct application (nobody makes an original for my truck anymore)but I was able to fab mounts and fit it and it cools Great. I was able to do this mostly because dodge sweptline guys who had been through this before me had given advice which I found online. What they didn't give was attitude like you are displaying.

I have ran this cap on my 2N for exactly one hour. I said that in a previous post. I have not ran it since. It ran flawlessly and did not explode what appears to be the factory original radiator. I did not die, the sky did not fall, headgasket didn't blow, and even the hoses survived.

So why should I be vilified and treated like scum of the earth because I tried to simply swap a radiator cap out on a tractor I've owned for only a week, because the original cap was so worn out that it turns and loosens up while driving? Using the old cap in my situation is like using no cap at all.

Now riddle me this expert, how much did you know your first week around Ford N tractors? Probably not much.

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OK, do what you want, I'm done with you.

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Yes I am planning at some point to swap my radiator. Because mine while it cools very well, looks crappy and may even be the original!

Now I've been through the wringer as far as radiators go. I have a big Block 71 dodge sweptline truck that the original radiator Wrnt out on. I researched and found a champion radiator that wasn't the correct application (nobody makes an original for my truck anymore)but I was able to fab mounts and fit it and it cools Great. I was able to do this mostly because dodge sweptline guys who had been through this before me had given advice which I found online. What they didn't give was attitude like you are displaying.

I have ran this cap on my 2N for exactly one hour. I said that in a previous post. I have not ran it since. It ran flawlessly and did not explode what appears to be the factory original radiator. I did not die, the sky did not fall, headgasket didn't blow, and even the hoses survived.

So why should I be vilified and treated like scum of the earth because I tried to simply swap a radiator cap out on a tractor I've owned for only a week, because the original cap was so worn out that it turns and loosens up while driving? Using the old cap in my situation is like using no cap at all.

Now riddle me this expert, how much did you know your first week around Ford N tractors? Probably not much.

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OK, do what you want, I'm done with you.

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Thank you Sir. I don't want or need my own personal troll here, and I never asked for such a troll either. Have a great day!!!

Not trying to reply to anyone in particular here.

I would be concerned about a 16 pound cap blowing the water pump seal out.

HELLO TONEY....

A guy once said just the facts mam...

For the record you can reply "Whut He Said" a few thousand times and become a Guru "Whoda Thunk It" You don't earn it everyone gets a trophy it came with the program.... Some are lucky enoufh to get a Trophy wife but I don't think you gonna get one hanging out here....

To clar·i·fy My statement a N radiator neck is deeper than a standard run of the mill neck... The top were you install the cap is a standard run of the mill deal. Your fancy gizmo may not be sealing in the lower part of the neck thus not building any pressure at all... Deal killer are not its your call...

Our resident Guru (The Real Deal) JMOR wuzz just passing along his experiences "Just the Facts Mam"


If you are Happy with yer Gizmo and I had a feather up my arse we both would be tickled to death...