Does anyone have a used PTO Shaft and a ORC

I need a shaft that is 1 3/8 " . I have seen just a straight shaft and also one with something attached to it, not sure what that is or which I need, ( I know I am dumb as a rock, not ashamed to admit it, but my husband died and I am not a farmer, so maybe that helps to explain my ignorance?) It is needed for a 8 N Ford, with a 6 ft bushog. How do I know how long it should be? I also need an 1 3/8 " ORC.
 



PTO Shaft - PTO Shaft. For 8N, 9N, 2N (converts 1 1/8 inch shaft to 1 3/8 inch spline. This is the shaft only. (Part No: 9N710-38)
$59.37



Do I need this too? Shaft bearing?

PTO Shaft Bearing, Front - For tractor models: Dexta, Super Dexta, NAA, Jubilee, 501, 600, 601, 700, 701, 800, 801, 900, 901, 2000, 2110LCG, 2310, 2600, 2610, 2810, 2910, 3000, 3400, 3500, 3550, 3600, 3610, 3910, 3900, 4000, 4100, 4110, 4110LCG, 4400, 4500, 4600, 4610, 5000, 5600, 5610, 5610S, 5900, 6600, 6610, 6610S, 6700, 6710, 6810, 7600, 7610, 7610S, 7700, 7710, 7810S, 8010. All WITH 1 3/8 INCH DIAMETER PTO SHAFT. WILL NOT FIT 1 1/8 INCH DIAMETER PTO SHAFT. (Part No: E75GE9)
$8.28





PTO Shaft Conversion Assembly - Shaft Assembly with cap converts 1-1/8 inch PTO System to 1-3/8 inch. Assembled and ready to install by removing 4 bolts from cover. Length 30-7/8 inches. Uses gasket C5NN747A (included). (Part No: 9N700-38)
$83.21
 

unless you're an experienced mechanic and believe the bearing with your broken PTO shaft is still good, i would suggest u get the shaft with something attached. that one is ready to slide in and bolt in place, much easier job.

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(quoted from post at 18:21:39 06/09/17)


PTO Shaft - PTO Shaft. For 8N, 9N, 2N (converts 1 1/8 inch shaft to 1 3/8 inch spline. This is the shaft only. (Part No: 9N710-38)
$59.37



Do I need this too? Shaft bearing?

PTO Shaft Bearing, Front - For tractor models: Dexta, Super Dexta, NAA, Jubilee, 501, 600, 601, 700, 701, 800, 801, 900, 901, 2000, 2110LCG, 2310, 2600, 2610, 2810, 2910, 3000, 3400, 3500, 3550, 3600, 3610, 3910, 3900, 4000, 4100, 4110, 4110LCG, 4400, 4500, 4600, 4610, 5000, 5600, 5610, 5610S, 5900, 6600, 6610, 6610S, 6700, 6710, 6810, 7600, 7610, 7610S, 7700, 7710, 7810S, 8010. All WITH 1 3/8 INCH DIAMETER PTO SHAFT. WILL NOT FIT 1 1/8 INCH DIAMETER PTO SHAFT. (Part No: E75GE9)
$8.28





PTO Shaft Conversion Assembly - Shaft Assembly with cap converts 1-1/8 inch PTO System to 1-3/8 inch. Assembled and ready to install by removing 4 bolts from cover. Length 30-7/8 inches. Uses gasket C5NN747A (included). (Part No: 9N700-38)
$83.21

our posts crossed :)

u want the last thing u listed. it's the first two, already put together.
 
:) Ok, so that tells me that the bearing must be located in that something attached thingy!! Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated.
 
(quoted from post at 18:29:28 06/09/17) :) Ok, so that tells me that the bearing must be located in that something attached thingy!! Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated.

u are correct, and u are welcome as well :)
 
(quoted from post at 14:29:28 06/09/17) :) Ok, so that tells me that the bearing must be located in that something attached thingy!! Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated.

I thought we went all through this in your other thread. This is the replacement shaft that you need.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Ford-8N_PTO-Shaft-Conversion-Assembly_9N70038.html

This shaft is complete. You just remove the four bolts holding your old shaft in and pull the old shaft out. Then slide the new shaft with the included gasket into place. Replace the four bolts and refill with hydraulic fluid.

You keep talking about "how long". Get that out of your head. There is no length to worry about. The shafts (old and new) are all the same length.

The only other thing you need will be an ORC. Here it is.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/C660F_PTO-Overide-Clutch_672.htm
 
wings.......yer 23-hp N-tractor aint gott the cahones to run a 6-ft brushhogg. 5-ft is recommended. You will still need an ORC (over running coupler) otherwize when you dance yer dainty #9's on the clutch pedal to slow down to go around the corner of the barn, fencepost, the inertia of them blades will drive yer N-tractor while yer hollerin' WHOH!!! BIG CAUTION: iff'n you operated WITHOUT an ORC, you could have TWISTED yer PTO shaft and will need a flame-wrench to gitter out. Today ALL PTO operated equipment (ie...brushhoggs) are 6-spline 1-3/8" PTO. There were some belt operated corn threshers but they are RARE, so donna worry........HTH, Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister
 
Provided everything is OK inside the tractor you can order the shaft with the bearing already attached for less than $100.00. It is then simply a matter of unbolting the shaft at the rear of the tractor (4 bolts) slide it out and sliding the new one in. You can get the shaft with the original spline size or you can get the 1 3/8" size. (the splines that the implement attaches to). Be sure to order the ORC (over ride coupler) size to fit not only the shaft you install, but the bush hog also. Remember that oil will probably come out when you remove the shaft if you don't elevate the rear of the tractor. I think you will find that you have more bush hog than your tractor should be running. You may want to look around and see if you can trade it for a 4 or 5 footer. Above all, do not run the bush hog without an ORC installed.
 

Mr. Meister, Sir, The tractor did have an orc, and that is what the end of the shaft is stuck inside of. My dainty 9's are a hefty 11W :wink: !! I am a farm girl, whether or not I know anything about it.

You said that all PTO Shafts are now 1 3/8, so I guess that means the 4 or 5 ft bushog that I am going to have to buy will be 1 3/8, for the shaft and the ORC, am I right?

Someone else said that the 6 ft. was ok..........Grrrr. :(
 
Wings........I once worked atta island about 700-mi from Honolulu where they promised me polynesian maidens behind every palm tree. They lied. NO TREES!!! ...but... there was the dainty feets prints of the LAST woman in heels in the concrete that supported the flag staff. Strange place, Navy owned the island; Army ran the boats; and AirForce ran the radar station. And civilians ran the kitchen. It was cheeper to drink Crown Royal than beer. They once hadda barge full of beer they couldn't give it away. Hadda tow it back to Honolulu.......Dell
 
(quoted from post at 10:25:44 06/10/17)
Mr. Meister, Sir, The tractor did have an orc, and that is what the end of the shaft is stuck inside of. My dainty 9's are a hefty 11W :wink: !! I am a farm girl, whether or not I know anything about it.

You said that all PTO Shafts are now 1 3/8, so I guess that means the 4 or 5 ft bushog that I am going to have to buy will be 1 3/8, for the shaft and the ORC, am I right?

Someone else said that the 6 ft. was ok..........Grrrr. :(

Do you know how the ORC is attached to the end of the PTO shaft?

There is a pin that you have to locate and remove to get the ORC off. Remove grease fitting and a plug on the opposite side, clean out all the grease you an and rotate the ORC while looking in one of the holes until you locate the pin, once located it will drive out with a punch.
Good luck
 
(quoted from post at 07:49:21 06/11/17) Wings........I once worked atta island about 700-mi from Honolulu where they promised me polynesian maidens behind every palm tree. They lied. NO TREES!!! ...but... there was the dainty feets prints of the LAST woman in heels in the concrete that supported the flag staff. Strange place, Navy owned the island; Army ran the boats; and AirForce ran the radar station. And civilians ran the kitchen. It was cheeper to drink Crown Royal than beer. They once hadda barge full of beer they couldn't give it away. Hadda tow it back to Honolulu.......Dell

Duh!! Interesting story, Dell, but the only way I can connect it to this post is the lying part?? I can not imagine, that a barge full of beer could possibly be sent back with a whole islands full of military staff?? So you in essence are saying to not use the 6 ft hog? What about overlapping, and only cutting new grass at 1/3 or 1/2 the width? I bet you are a hoot to be around?
 
Make life easy on yourself and buy the fully assembled ready to
install PTO assembly. You will also need a 1 3/8 to 1 3/8 ORC.

Kirk
 

There was not a lot of grease in the Orc, he took out the round pin, and then the flat oblong steel pins, the end of the shaft will turn and twist around but I will not come out, there is a hole in the end of it, that you can stick a small drill bit into for a short distance, it does not appear to be anything that can be driven out.
 
(quoted from post at 12:21:20 06/11/17) Make life easy on yourself and buy the fully assembled ready to
install PTO assembly. You will also need a 1 3/8 to 1 3/8 ORC.

Kirk

BINGO...DING, DING, DING....We have a winner.

But I believe someone already suggested that and even gave her the links to purchase the items. It seems she is just not interested.
 
(quoted from post at 12:44:53 06/11/17)
(quoted from post at 12:21:20 06/11/17) Make life easy on yourself and buy the fully assembled ready to
install PTO assembly. You will also need a 1 3/8 to 1 3/8 ORC.

Kirk

BINGO...DING, DING, DING....We have a winner.

But I believe someone already suggested that and even gave her the links to purchase the items. It seems she is just not interested.

Ding, ding, ding, I am interested, and fully intend to purchase this, however one man offered to give me a orc, just trying to get all the details together. :?
 
(quoted from post at 18:07:25 06/11/17)
(quoted from post at 12:44:53 06/11/17)
(quoted from post at 12:21:20 06/11/17) Make life easy on yourself and buy the fully assembled ready to
install PTO assembly. You will also need a 1 3/8 to 1 3/8 ORC.

Kirk

BINGO...DING, DING, DING....We have a winner.

But I believe someone already suggested that and even gave her the links to purchase the items. It seems she is just not interested.

Ding, ding, ding, I am interested, and fully intend to purchase this, however one man offered to give me a orc, just trying to get all the details together. :?

Ok, that's fine. But just make sure you get the correct ORC.

You know you need a new PTO shaft. But I would just buy a new complete PTO shaft assembly that I gave you the link for. Even if you found a used PTO, you don't know if you'd be putting in one with a leaking seal or not. At the price of the new complete shaft you will be coming out ahead.

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and buy the new parts. Of course sometimes you need a part that is just not made anymore and you have to buy used. When I removed the top cover on my 8N, I discovered that my control rod was very bent. I managed to find a nice straight used one from a member here. I could have tried to straighten the old one but I just went with the replacement one. Sometime when I get around to it, I will try to straighten out the old one for a spare.

I actually have an old working ORC, but it's for a 1 1/8" PTO shaft. I put in a new 1 3/8" shaft. At the price of an ORC I would not even go with a used one. I would bite the bullet and just order a new one if I needed one.
 

:lol: Okay, okay, okay....a new one it is, both the shaft and the orc, the free one turned out to be the wrong size. :? Maybe, just maybe you all can get some rest now? I think I put you thru the wringer!!! :wink: But I do appreciate the help!!! :)
 

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