Ferguson Field Cultivator Sweeps

Tall,
I finally got a picture of my AC field cultivator sweeps,
they are thin,

you have a great looking implement there

Well Max . . .

That's a real beauty you have there.
Yes, I've come to the conclusion that I'm going to need that style of 2-bolt spear points and have an eye out for some.

I'm convinced that the 5 wide spade points on the front of mine will make my tires spin when they're running deep -- which is what I need them to do. I'll try going deeper by degrees by feathering the hydraulics, or by using adjustable limiter chains to limit the depth.

I might also have to remove a couple and/or remove the back row "wings" as this rig was obviously set up to cultivate between rows of crops rather than to simply till.

The leggings that someone made for these are designed to push back the plants while cultivating so i'll be taking those off.

I hooked it up the other day to move it to my shop doorway and discovered something else to think about. If I raise it up too high it will get hung up on my rear tire lugs, the same way my Ferguson Cutter did. I solved that problem by putting the lower link arm pins on the insides of the A-Frame which moves the implement away from the wheels just enough. I'm going to try the same thing with this cultivator.

I'm wondering now if there is a difference in lower link arm reach and/or pin-to-pin width with Ferguson tractors and implements. I'm also wondering if there was any change in lower link arm length from the N's to the NAA. But I realize I have the same rear axle as the 8N. Just wondering.

I'm going to measure the pin-to-pin distance between my various implements, but it seems that based on the two Ferguson things I have, Ferguson implements might be slighter wider which brings the unit closer to the tires.

So where does one shop for pointed sweeps?
Because of the length of the widened flat section where the sweeps bolt on, I'm pretty sure my existing sweeps won't work without more modification than I care to do -- which Kirk and others probably knew. I was hoping that the upper part would hug the shank so that one bolt would do..

Thanks much,
Terry

I bought mine at Peavey Mart.
I see there is one in Kamloops.
Peavey Mart

Hank,

Kamloops?
I thought that was a breakfast cereal for mechanics.

or a diagnosis:
"Sorry lady, but your engine has kamloops.

I've never heard of Peavey Mart! Do you live in B.C.?

Thanks for digging that request out of my long rap! I'll have a look-see.

Terry

Well . . .

You wrote:
"I finally got a picture of my AC field cultivator sweeps,
they are thin."

I presume you meant "narrow" as opposed to thin.

I tried the sweeps i have and no go.
I found one only that does work and the 2 holes line up.

And yes, that milk chocolate juice is my instant de-ruster and lubricator.

Yes narrow is what I should have said, but when I saw those wide ones on yours, I guess thin was all I could think about,

This old AC unit had 9 of these bad boy shanks with two end depth wheels, I took off the wheels and two of the (shanks).

If I allow it to drop down this heavy machine will dig, does a fine job, if the ground is hard those springs vibrate kind of busting up the soil, great machine for what I paid for it, It was ready to go in the scraper bend when I found it.
Already had the AC snap couple hitch cut off and 3pt hitch welded on,

Post a pix of the draw-bar check chains that go from the brackets that bolt around the PTO to the lift arms... I know you have some fat tars that may be a problem... Those chains limit how far the lift arms move out during the lift event...

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/NCA596B_Drawbar-Check-Chain-Kit_27634.htm

Sweeps are not gonna cut it as you know. I know that is a standard point I can run down to the local implement store and buy all I want to pit my all purpose plow What I don't know it to tell you zackly what it is as far as a part #...



https://www.herschelparts.com/aspx/prodListing.aspx?catid=1288

Search YT they mat offer plow parts...

I pulled that link out of my arse on a quick search :lol:

Deeper search using chisel plow parts look under field cultivator points... Don't let me forget I will measure mine tomorrow...



http://www.agrisupply.com/tillage/c/4500000/

Hobo
I don't know the difference
'tween a sweep and a point
I thought they were one and the same

But I ain't got no check chains
Just my hybrid rigid sway bars.

But hey, I got the rusty pins out
with pictures of my super fluid
No waiting and no heat other than the warmth of the moving nut.
I'll turn the pins to the insides
It worked like a charm on the 5' MF Cutter
to back it away from me fat tires tires

A little more trouble connecting up
with the pins on the insides
but not enough to matter.
I have to unpin my stabilizers
to bring the lower lift arms inside to connect
but my sway bars connect back up quickly.

Thanks,
I'll post my MF hooked up with the pins inside.

Terry

With a 4" pipe on my ratchet handle
And pipe wrench on the pin
No heat at all and no waiting
The proof is in the chocolate pudding

Hobo,

I think you were trying to tell me I need chains as well as my bars, to limit the side swing even more . . . so I'll put some on.

I forget how much putting the pins inside pulls the MF 59 back away the tire but it was just enough.

Hobo,

Interesting variety of chisel points at Hershel. Like someone here told me a long while ago, the sweeps of which I have 13 loose ones of, are called "Danish Sweeps"
and the wide ones I have in the front row of this Cultivator seem to be "Danish Sweeps" as well according to that Hershel site.

About the chains, I have two of them already, just haven't put them on the tractor.

Thanks!
I'll check with my local Island Tractor as well. They are a New Holland, Kubota dealership.

Terry

Wow! that last link you gave me has my Cultivator "chisel Plow Sweeps" as they call them, both the front row and back row types that I now have.

Chisel Plow Sweeps

Actually my back row winged ones are called Beet Sweeps
Beet Sweeps

Thanks much,
Terry

Because you have stepped pins to move them you will also have to
move the brace. I replaced one of my pins with a standard pin.
Just figured I'd drill out the brace. Not so easy, it's harden
steel. My friend reemed it out on his mill.

Kirk

https://www.homesteadingtoday.com/threads/implement-sweeps.346491/

Not a expert I googled it... I learned the hard way on how to use them :trial and error: Getting new bolts made for them would also be nice to have if yours are in bad shape are have been replaced.

10" X 2"
takes 7/16 X 1-1/2 plow bolts.




YMMV

Spacing for bolts 2"

(quoted from post at 03:17:57 05/15/17) Because you have stepped pins to move them you will also have to
move the brace. I replaced one of my pins with a standard pin.
Just figured I'd drill out the brace. Not so easy, it's harden
steel. My friend reemed it out on his mill.

Kirk

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Excellent! Thanks for pointing that out before I discovered it.
I'll try moving the braces (with their big holes) to the outsides
and making a new longer spacer between them just below the top link.

Thanks,
Terry

Hobo,

Thanks for the details!
T

(quoted from post at 08:03:13 05/15/17)
Spacing for bolts 2"

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Hobo,

Nearby Tractor supply says they have 15 of them but they are
12" X 2" which is probably OK and one of the holes is slotted like on my shanks.

But OUCH!
$17 each!

Terry