PTO size change

OK I'm sure to get flak from some of youse guys but here is the story: I bought and installed an 1 1/8" to 1 3/8" adaptor fer my PTO and hooked up the dreaded roto tiller didn't set the drive angle right and the adaptor split /twisted and the driveshaft fell off in 30 feet while up and headed to the plot :oops: Went back to pelican tractor and buys a new one, adjust angle properly and till up my 3/4 acre garden ...NOTE I have already disc harrowed and spring harrowed this plot twice this spring and the soil is volcanic sandy loam that once broken tills up like silk....
So, after I'm finished and go to uncouple the drive I find the adaptor has twisted some but didn't come apart like the last one
the adaptor end is pressed into the end of the very thin spline end where the pin groove is making for a very weak link as the drive yoke rides on the end of the adaptor shaft and I understand why the twist factor happened...
Now my thought is to bite the bullet and buy the 1 3/8" PTO shaft from this site, any pro's and con's are welcome.....

BTW,.. the soil looks beautiful after the tilling and the tractor didn't get beat up in the process and I want to make another pass or two before rowing and planting, it's still frosting hard in the morning here............
 
Either replace the PTO shaft or install an ORC. that changes the size. I got two of them on my 8n's with small shaft.
 

Just be aware that the new 1 3/8" shafts are about a half inch longer than the old 1 1/8" shafts were. Add an ORC to that and you might be getting close on your implement shaft length.
 
Cliff.........umm? it must be springtime, rototilling with 8N's questions, leave alone the PTO size problem. 1st, the ground speed is TOO FAST, even in 1st gear. 2nd, sounds like yer using the sheet metal PTO size-up adaptor. It ain't got the cojones to do it. BIG TIP: park yer tractor NOSE DOWN inna ditch to change yer PTO shaft, otherwize yer gonna haffta drain 5-gals of hydro-tranny fluid first. Me? Iff'n I gotta roto-till a large garden plot, (and 3/4-acre it BIG) I'd go rent a 2-cyl Yamabotadeer which is set-up fer roto-tilling. I've already gotta 22-in Troy-built roto-tiller which works fine on my south facing terraced hillside at the foot of 14K Mt Rainier........HTH, the amazed Dell who gotta bee onna look-out fer 60-day TOMATOES the 4-H kids sell
 
Until last week I would have agreed with you on Ford N's being too fast in first gear to operate a rototiller. I stopped at my neighbors house last week and he and his son were hooking up a rototiller, purchased at Tractor Supply, to a Jubilee. I was fully expecting the tractor to be overwhelmed and do a poor job. I was surprised!
In an existing garden area that had not been worked since last year, the tractor easily pulled the tiller and really fluffed the ground. After the son covered the ground twice in first gear he shifted into second gear. There is no auxiliary transmission. Holy cow! What really impressed me is that I know the tractor has marginal compression.
 

Dell the rental prices around here are %%@(&^%$!! ridiculous
besides the fact that I have a tiller and the ground is as I said already well disced and cultivated before I ran the roto to floofer it up fer plantin with no strain on my old gas jenny.
I will drain the cases before pullin the shaft cuz I aint got a hill to point it down on :wink: and yes both adaptors were the cheapo tin pressed together crap from the land of the frying dragons... :roll:

R.G. and Cary; I have been lookin at the step up ORC as the stock PTO shaft and bearing are good, and the seal I replaced last fall, the shaft length was my concern there as when its in the up position the angle is pretty steep so binding may well be a problem with more stick out and I don't want to take out the bearing an/or bend the shaft, hopin to find someone who has done this successfully for some feed back......

Thank all of you for your input pro or con as it helps me figger it out as viable or not in my case...... 8)
 

if your old shaft pulls right out, it's about as easy a job as u could want to do. if your splines are twisted, it might not be so easy.
 

John; I too used till think it couldn't be done till I saw it being done on you tube a while back and then I remembered an old adage.....

Those of you who say it can't be done need to get out of the way of the people who are actually doin sumthin" ....

That has always stayed in the back of my mind and kept me goin fer it.......
 
Everyone gets to do as they wish here.
If running a tiller behind an N at close to
5 mph in 1st gear when the tiller is
designed to be used at about 1.5 mph, that's
ok.
Everyone gets to decide what they think a
good job is too - even if it isn't...
 
(quoted from post at 02:29:22 05/03/17) Everyone gets to do as they wish here.
If running a tiller behind an N at close to
5 mph in 1st gear when the tiller is
designed to be used at about 1.5 mph, that's
ok.
Everyone gets to decide what they think a
good job is too - even if it isn't...

Yes, I have always thought that the smooth surface of a freshly roto-tilled piece of earth is a beautiful thing to behold. The stand of weeds that follows a month later, not so much.
 

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