front end loader

Hey guys

I'm going to look at a loader for my 9n.the seller is only 1mile down the road.

All I know is that its a smaller bucket.and the hydo pistons will need rebuilt.as its sat a long time.


My question is if its a complete loader in restorable condition what is the going price?


How much is a front mounted pump going to cost me? If the seller has the pump,are they restorable?


Any info on what to check or what to stay away from?

I understand that once on my 9n they are a bear to stear.and totally change the maneuver ability of the tractor.But I'm still young and can handle it...I have a sunken gravel drive that makes a 3 point rear snow blade worthless. Found that out in 3' snow last winter....
 
Assuming that it is vintage to that era and lacks features such as hydraulic bucket control and given the info provided 100 dollars would be plenty for it. Pump is a matter of manufacturer and condition/ what needs to be fixed. Some loaders for the N's took hydraulics from the tractor pump/ three point circuit but were comparatively under capacity. Replacement pump is a function of supply and demand. Don't overpay for anything as the demand is well past peak for the N series. Most guys want tractors with power steering and many people ahead of you have set a market where power steering equipped loader tractors are not hard to come by with a little traveling. I could probably find an Oliver 77 or 88 that somebody threw power steering and a loader on for not much more than what you gave for your 9N and will give to put a loader on the 9N.
 
I put a paulson front end loader on my 8n. Works great and the steering isnt bad at all. The guys here will try and talk you out of putting one on it they did me when i asked about one. Best decision i made. Find out what brand it is and you can get more info.
 
Obviously I was referring to a used pump when talking about supply and demand. Go through a dealer or jobber and the price will be fixed and not open to dickering.
 
The steering is not bad with nothing in the bucket. Try running one to move a bunch of topsoil or manure for several straight hours. No shortage of guys who had to farm that way for many years and then jumped for joy when they could afford a power steering equipped loader tractor. Anyways, his muscles. His choice.
 
What type of loader? Is it one that you can step through to get
onto the tractor from the side or the jungle gym type where you
have to crawl onto the tractor from the rear?
If the latter, I would leave it where it is, personally.

I have a step-through on my Jubilee.
I added power steering to make it a usable loader tractor.

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(quoted from post at 18:23:12 02/11/17) Hey guys

I'm going to look at a loader for my 9n.the seller is only 1mile down the road.

All I know is that its a smaller bucket.and the hydo pistons will need rebuilt.as its sat a long time.


My question is if its a complete loader in restorable condition what is the going price?


How much is a front mounted pump going to cost me? If the seller has the pump,are they restorable?


Any info on what to check or what to stay away from?

I understand that once on my 9n they are a bear to stear.and totally change the maneuver ability of the tractor.But I'm still young and can handle it...I have a sunken gravel drive that makes a 3 point rear snow blade worthless. Found that out in 3' snow last winter....

I have an 8N with a davis loader on it. I've had it for over ten years now. What kind of tires do you have on your 9N? If you have the three rib tires on it they are not that good for a loader. My 8N had 6.50 X 16" light truck tires on it which are a lot better for a loader. I used my 8N for ten years for dirt road repair around my place.

Never had a problem but I was very careful with it. Working on the roads after the rains, I never tried to fill up the bucket with dirt. You'd be surprised how heavy wet dirt is. You never want to get that front end bouncing on road ruts with a load of dirt in the bucket. The steering is hard with a bucket of dirt even with the bigger tires, but nothing you won't be able to handle.

I just picked up a Massey Ferguson 202 Workbull for a good price. It's the industrial version of the MF35. It has a front end that's built for a loader and it has power steering.

I picked up that MF202 for $2000. Being as the three point lift was not working when I bought it the guy couldn't really ask for any more. With a little tinkering I got the lift to start working so I really made out on the deal.

The 8N will now be my dedicated mowing tractor. I may even take the loader off of it since the 202 will do all the road work from now on.

Make sure you get all the brackets to mount the FEL you are going to buy. Sometimes with an FEL, the mounting brackets were left on the tractor it came off of. Just be aware that you will need that front pump and you really should get some good front tires to handle a loader.

Just be easy on it and you should have no problems.
 
Hey thanks for your thoughts guys.


I'll go check it out this week if not over next weekend.

I hope its a step though design.or it probably will not get bought.


I know the man.trapped fox off his farm years ago.so hopefully he doesn't want too much.I will try to get it cheap.$100-150 Or it won't come home with me.man says he has lots of other parts laying around.so hopefully I can bundle a deal up.


I'll post back when I go see the model and such and see what you guys think.
 
As others have said, I also would recommend a step thru style loader. Crawling over the jungle jym style loader get old really fast even though you are young. You also will have to consider some sort of weight to counter balance the loader and load. Either wheel weights,loaded tires or a drum of cement hanging off the three pt. As you can see in my photo even with some weigh, but not enough for the heavy load can lift the rear off the ground.

Kirk
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(quoted from post at 21:23:12 02/11/17) Hey guys

I'm going to look at a loader for my 9n.the seller is only 1mile down the road.

All I know is that its a smaller bucket.and the hydo pistons will need rebuilt.as its sat a long time.


My question is if its a complete loader in restorable condition what is the going price?


How much is a front mounted pump going to cost me? If the seller has the pump,are they restorable?


Any info on what to check or what to stay away from?

I understand that once on my 9n they are a bear to stear.and totally change the maneuver ability of the tractor.But I'm still young and can handle it...I have a sunken gravel drive that makes a 3 point rear snow blade worthless. Found that out in 3' snow last winter....

If it is a step through design and needs cylinders and a pump $200 would be tops for me. If it's a jungle gym style with trip bucket it's only worth scrap price. Whatever it is you need to make sure you have the parts needed to mount it on 9N.

Most old loader pumps are not worth rebuilding - brand new ones can be purchased for $150. By the time you figure in shipping charges a new front pump with pulley, hub, drive shaft, and coupler is going to cost you $350+. That does not include mounting brackets or hoses and fittings if the old ones need to be replaced.

Young or not - a 9N with a front loader is a PITA to operate and if that lane or property is up and down steep hills iit can easily become a serious threat to your well being.

If you want me to take a look at it with you and give you my opinion just holler.

TOH
 
When I think of adding a loader to one of these little Fords I just say ugghh.
Loader makes a dreadnought out of a nimble little tractor - especially one without power steering.
If I had a couple of tractors and needed a loader a Lot I would put one on and pretty much dedicate the tractor to loader work while I used the other one for everything else.
 
Yours is one of many reasons I traded in my old 9N with loader. Dealer sold me a 1980(new) Ford 2600 and put my loader on it. I never looked back.
 
(quoted from post at 01:40:46 02/12/17) As others have said, I also would recommend a step thru style loader. Crawling over the jungle jym style loader get old really fast even though you are young. You also will have to consider some sort of weight to counter balance the loader and load. Either wheel weights,loaded tires or a drum of cement hanging off the three pt. As you can see in my photo even with some weigh, but not enough for the heavy load can lift the rear off the ground.

Kirk
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Man, that's a lot of weight all on that front suspension. I would be too scared to do that.
 
Poor N Proud,

You've seen a lot of replies here about how much this could wind up costing you. There is a reason I told you about the MF202 I purchased. I got a way better tractor that was built to handle a loader for $2000. I guess now you can see why.

If you sink all that money into your 9N you will be converting it from a nimble little gazelle to a big lumbering water buffalo.

Think about looking for another loader tractor.
 
I am thinking that even if he buys the loader dirt cheap he will have at least another 500 dollars into it to square it up.
 
"I would put one on and pretty much dedicate the tractor to loader work"

That is exactly what I did with the Jubilee pictured. It does nothing else.
 
(quoted from post at 13:10:18 02/12/17) "I would put one on and pretty much dedicate the tractor to loader work"

That is exactly what I did with the Jubilee pictured. It does nothing else.

He doesn't really have that option if the 9N is his only tractor.
 
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(quoted from post at 13:10:18 02/12/17) "I would put one on and pretty much dedicate the tractor to loader work"

That is exactly what I did with the Jubilee pictured. It does nothing else.

He doesn't really have that option if the 9N is his only tractor.

Agreed. I like to have one tractor for each implement. Don't
have to do all that hard work swapping implements that way! ;)
 
A hundred dollars does not buy much hydraulic hose from the shop. Valve, hose, fittings, pump, pump drive, reservoir, oil adds up in a hurry and big. If you bought the old style loader you will never get all that money back out of it. If you get tired of it you will take a bath on it. The only way I would do a vintage loader on a 9N is if I were doing a collector package.
 
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(quoted from post at 16:40:42 02/12/17)
(quoted from post at 13:10:18 02/12/17) "I would put one on and pretty much dedicate the tractor to loader work"

That is exactly what I did with the Jubilee pictured. It does nothing else.

He doesn't really have that option if the 9N is his only tractor.

Agreed. I like to have one tractor for each implement. Don't
have to do all that hard work swapping implements that way! ;)

The only implements I use are my mower and my box blade. So, the two tractors work out pretty good for me. :D
 
(quoted from post at 08:21:26 02/12/17) When I think of adding a loader to one of these little Fords I just say ugghh.
Loader makes a dreadnought out of a nimble little tractor - especially one without power steering.
If I had a couple of tractors and needed a loader a Lot I would put one on and pretty much dedicate the tractor to loader work while I used the other one for everything else.

that's undoubtedly true, for those who normally use 3-pt implements. me, i specifically bought the tractor, with the loader, to move snow from my driveway. i live on a wide state highway, and the amount of snow that gets deposited at the entrance is significant. when the snow is at all wet, my snowblower cannot handle it. the loader makes easy work of it, and doesn't wear out my back the way shoveling it would. i'm very happy with it.

wally
 
Poor N Proud,

Don't let us discourage you. Like I said, I've had an 8N with a loader on it for ten years. If I can deal with it, you can too. Now you pretty much know all the pros and cons.

If you really want a loader and can't afford another tractor, go ahead and put one on it. You can always take it off.

Use your own judgement. Just get one that's usable and you don't have to search to the ends of the earth for parts for it.
 
(quoted from post at 18:00:48 02/12/17)
(quoted from post at 13:50:08 02/12/17)
(quoted from post at 16:40:42 02/12/17)
(quoted from post at 13:10:18 02/12/17) "I would put one on and pretty much dedicate the tractor to loader work"

That is exactly what I did with the Jubilee pictured. It does nothing else.

He doesn't really have that option if the 9N is his only tractor.

Agreed. I like to have one tractor for each implement. Don't
have to do all that hard work swapping implements that way! ;)

The only implements I use are my mower and my box blade. So, the two tractors work out pretty good for me. :D

Hint: Buy more implements! :lol:
 
(quoted from post at 20:11:12 02/12/17)
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This is mine. That is a paulson front end loader. Very hard to find. I looked for this one for over a year before i ran on to it on craigslist. Drove 300 miles one way to get it. It made a handy little tractor even handier. Best money i spent on the tractor other than the mini high torque starter.
 
This is mine. That is a paulson front end loader. Very hard to find. I looked for this one for over a year before i ran on to it on craigslist. Drove 300 miles one way to get it. It made a handy little tractor even handier. Best money i spent on the tractor other than the mini high torque starter.

Please explain the "mini high torque starter".
 
agreed. I don't think I'd pay over 150$ for a loader frame. lotsa work mating a frame up and then plumbing it.
 
If you're near Peoria IL, I have a Dearborn loader with a manure bucket that I'll *give* you. I pulled it out of a rented pasture some years ago (with permission) and never got around to mounting it on my 8N. Eventually got a second loader tractor so I don't need it now.

The main reason I never mounted it was that it needs hoses, and probably some brackets, etc. Pump is there, but no idea if it or the cylinders work. I also was using the 8N for cutting, raking and baling hay at the time, and the loader would have honestly been a hindrance.

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I paid $400 for a jungle-gym loader last summer. Came with a free 8N too!

I now have 3 Ns; one for mowing, one for garden work, and one as a loader. have just over $3000 in tractors and $1000 in 5 implements. Still cheaper than a newer tractor IMHO.
 
(quoted from post at 12:11:28 02/13/17) I paid $400 for a jungle-gym loader last summer. Came with a free 8N too!

I now have 3 Ns; one for mowing, one for garden work, and one as a loader. have just over $3000 in tractors and $1000 in 5 implements. Still cheaper than a newer tractor IMHO.
I doesn't quite compute. You need two more tractors.
 
(quoted from post at 18:23:29 02/13/17) they are the replacment 8n starters. got it off ebay. works great

What's mini about it? Is it way smaller than the stock starter?
 

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